[roxy25]

That's so sad Secreto

It is sad !!! I have had this happen to me 2-3 times with my american bobtail cats I found out that two of my cats genes do not match up good when bred. So I just culled them out of my breeding program

 

[roxy25]

Just ask him if he thinks triggers puppies will fade, being bred to an apricot dd gene female. And is this the 'true red' he is talking about?

I will see what he says , I will ask what age do the dogs fade. I read some fade within a year but I think it depends on the bloolines etc...

I will see if he can send me pictures of his 13 year girl. Since he is really nice maybe I will get a puppy for him when he has his next litter. He told my sister he keeps showing his dog's even when they are 7 years of age! He seems to be one of the few breeders I came across that truely show for fun and a challenge.

I had a question on Blue pood;es. Are they a blue color like a weimraner or are they dark like black blue ?

 

[Purple Poodle]

I had a question on Blue pood;es. Are they a blue color like a weimraner or are they dark like black blue ?

Weimeraners are not blue they are a dilute liver called Isabella. Most Blue poodles are dark blue like this dog , or this like a gun metel color.

 

[SECRETO]

When I am talking about american bully's I mean this http://www.abkcdogs.org/ they are consider a seperate breed. I don't lump all pit bull type dogs in one category. I would never call an amstaff an american bully nor a apbt nor a staffy or a bull terrier .....

yes I seen bad websites but i can care less about the website. I find a lot of top breeders have HORRIBLE WEBSITES . I guess you think a good website has no pictures or updated events for the kennel etc..., its fine and dandy they have info about the breed and health testing but I came to the website for pictures and current wins or updated litters etc.... I know some breeders who never update and their sites , they are sooooooo old and they have decline in the quality of dogs they bred. there are breeders older than me that can not make web pages like Chickychat stated. I am 24 and I can't even make a website !

How do you think people found good breeders before the internet ? LOL

Im ready to get back to topic too but are you kidding me about the bolded portion of what you replyed ? Of course I want to see pictures (nice pics and ecspecially nice stacked pics) and it to be updated. If someone has a crappy website then the dogs usually don't look well represented either. Im talking about everything as a whole. Not just individual things about a webpage. I also never stated that you have to have a website to be a reputable breeder. I was implying that most good breeder's that have a website want it to represent there dogs as well as they do.

I really don't care if you get a dog from bad breeder or good one. Thats all you. I simply made a comment that you can tell a lot from a website.

 

[SECRETO]

According to the AKC this states as follow's:

Weimaraner....
Short, smooth and sleek, solid color, in shades of mouse-gray to silver-gray, usually blending to lighter shades on the head and ears. A small white marking on the chest is permitted, but should be penalized on any other portion of the body. White spots resulting from injury should not be penalized. A distinctly long coat is a disqualification. A distinctly blue or black coat is a disqualification.

 

[roxy25]

I was implying that most good breeder's that have a website want it to represent there dogs as well as they do. .

I agree but some breeders do not spend much time online so again if they have a bad website who cares ........ Thats almost like judging someone based on what type of car they have ..... IMO

I really don't care if you get a dog from bad breeder or good one. Thats all you. I simply made a comment that you can tell a lot from a website.

Yes you simply made a comment I don't agree with and does not make sense to me.

I won't be getting a dog from a bad breeder .... Like I stated in my hello thread , I been into dogs for most of my life .... I think I know where to find a good breeder. Poodles are just new to me but that does not mean I don't know where to find a quality breeder. This is why I CONTACTED Terry Farley .... :tongue:

 

[roxy25]

Weimeraners are not blue they are a dilute liver called Isabella. Most Blue poodles are dark blue like this dog , or this like a gun metel color.

Thanks Purple poodle ! , I asked because I been looking at some breeders website and they said they have blue but I would see dogs like this on different webiste http://avalonpoodles.tripod.com/ but they did not list what color the dog is so I thought this was blue. On the link provide they have it listed as silver I thought silver where much lighter.

 

[Purple Poodle]

Silver gets lighter as the dog ages and you can tell by 8 weeks weather or not its silver with blues its hared to tell, in to at all at 8 weeks.

If you go to their females page the dog at the bottom is a blue, the dog on the home page is a silver, like "Princess TT" on their females page.

 

[tannerokeefe]

Thanks Purple poodle ! , I asked because I been looking at some breeders website and they said they have blue but I would see dogs like this on different webiste http://avalonpoodles.tripod.com/ but they did not list what color the dog is so I thought this was blue. On the link provide they have it listed as silver I thought silver where much lighter.

Silver gets lighter as the dog ages and you can tell by 8 weeks weather or not its silver with blues its hared to tell, in to at all at 8 weeks.

If you go to their females page the dog at the bottom is a blue, the dog on the home page is a silver, like "Princess TT" on their females page.

My Dutch is a silver and there are pictures of him in the picture forum and the grooming forum. You could def tell he was silver at a very young age. He is 12 weeks old.

 

[SECRETO]

I agree but some breeders do not spend much time online so again if they have a bad website who cares ........ Thats almost like judging someone based on what type of car they have ..... IMO



Yes you simply made a comment I don't agree with and does not make sense to me.
I won't be getting a dog from a bad breeder .... Like I stated in my hello thread , I been into dogs for most of my life .... I think I know where to find a good breeder. Poodles are just new to me but that does not mean I don't know where to find a quality breeder. This is why I CONTACTED Terry Farley .... :tongue:

Oh dear...:shot: lol

 

[katsdogworld]

My poodle search experience...

Hello Poodle People! I was reading this thread and had to chime in...
I too was looking for a dark red poodle puppy. I searched and searched and searched. I learned a great deal, including some not so savory things about breeders listed in this thread...I'm not gonna smear publicly, but will share privately if interested.
Anywho, after having a horrible interaction with a "breeder" in Iowa, I finally came across Susan at http://www.marquisdiamondstandardpoodles.com

Her website was very informative, I liked that she waited until her dogs were two years old and had passed ALL the requisite poodle health tests. I liked that she competed her dogs, that she cared enough to feed all of her dogs a homemade RAW diet, and, to top it off, she was very quick to respond to my query, answered all questions thoroughly, provided great references, and even though she prefers people to visit her home and kennel to really get a feel for the dogs she was gracious enough to pack three puppies with her to a dog show for me to meet. That's how I ended up with Monroe...He is such a great guy...and, as it turns out, he has been quite successful in his limited show career as well...he's already UKC, Nat. & International CH...next up AKC!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3196026666/" title="monroe's best in show puppy by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3451/3196026666_17df11cb56_m.jpg" width="240" height="209" alt="monroe's best in show puppy"[IMG]
[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3208346067/" title="BIRD!!! by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/3208346067_c1ec301a38_m.jpg" width="161" height="240" alt="BIRD!!!"[IMG]


As you can see, he's not red!!! However, Susan does breed reds as well. She has had her red bitch genetically tested...her color will not fade.
Here's a pic of Randie out of Rose's last litter:
[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3153304672/" title="Such a pretty face! by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/3153304672_23605cbfca_m.jpg" width="213" height="240" alt="Such a pretty face!"[IMG]

Her owner tells me she's actually getting darker...I can't wait to see her again. We'll all be competing at the UKC show coming up in March in Modesto...
Just had to add in my 2 cents...Best of luck in your search!

 

[katsdogworld]

My apologies, apparently I don't know how to post pics here...I tried everything I knew, perhaps someone could help?

 

[Pamela]

LOL I wanted to get another red poodle but I am not too fawn of the fact they fade to a apricot color . So maybe a silver dog ? or black dog. if i get silver at least i expect him or her to get lighter lol Or maybe a parti poodle

my ginger is 3 and a half and is still red - somedays more than others lol I think enzo is so gorgous but he is lighter than ginger was when his age. so the darker the pup the more red it will stay.

 

[Pamela]

actually here isginger now.

 

[SECRETO]

Hello Poodle People! I was reading this thread and had to chime in...
I too was looking for a dark red poodle puppy. I searched and searched and searched. I learned a great deal, including some not so savory things about breeders listed in this thread...I'm not gonna smear publicly, but will share privately if interested.
Anywho, after having a horrible interaction with a "breeder" in Iowa, I finally came across Susan at http://www.marquisdiamondstandardpoodles.com

Her website was very informative, I liked that she waited until her dogs were two years old and had passed ALL the requisite poodle health tests. I liked that she competed her dogs, that she cared enough to feed all of her dogs a homemade RAW diet, and, to top it off, she was very quick to respond to my query, answered all questions thoroughly, provided great references, and even though she prefers people to visit her home and kennel to really get a feel for the dogs she was gracious enough to pack three puppies with her to a dog show for me to meet. That's how I ended up with Monroe...He is such a great guy...and, as it turns out, he has been quite successful in his limited show career as well...he's already UKC, Nat. & International CH...next up AKC!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3196026666/" title="monroe's best in show puppy by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3451/3196026666_17df11cb56_m.jpg" width="240" height="209" alt="monroe's best in show puppy"[IMG]
[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3208346067/" title="BIRD!!! by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/3208346067_c1ec301a38_m.jpg" width="161" height="240" alt="BIRD!!!"[IMG]


As you can see, he's not red!!! However, Susan does breed reds as well. She has had her red bitch genetically tested...her color will not fade.
Here's a pic of Randie out of Rose's last litter:
[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3153304672/" title="Such a pretty face! by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/3153304672_23605cbfca_m.jpg" width="213" height="240" alt="Such a pretty face!"[IMG]

Her owner tells me she's actually getting darker...I can't wait to see her again. We'll all be competing at the UKC show coming up in March in Modesto...
Just had to add in my 2 cents...Best of luck in your search![/QUOTE]



My boy Sting (16 wk puppy) is out of Susan's Antigua's Don't Look Back (black male). I didn't have a chance to speak with her yet but Im hoping she may entered in the show Im attending today. Ive heard from the breeder I purchased Sting from that she is wonderful. Im glad to hear you had the same opinion.

I would love to speak with you more but Im heading off to the bay this morning (AKC show). Its nice meeting you and I'd love to share some pics with you and get to know you better.

 

[Purple Poodle]

actually here isginger now.

Pam Ginger is actually a Brown, she has a liver nose and amber eyes She may have a red cats but she is indeed a brown.

 

[katsdogworld]

I'm going to GG show as well, though I don't think I'll make it today...Susan will not be there. I've got lots of great pictures of Val...he sure is gorgeous, and, he carries red factor genes! I'm looking forward to getting a puppy out of a future breeding between Val and Rose.

 

[kathyd]

My apologies, apparently I don't know how to post pics here...I tried everything I knew, perhaps someone could help?

katsdogworld, if your images are on flickr, you can post web links. Try these:

Monroe:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3196026666/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3451/3196026666_17df11cb56_m.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3208346067/
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/3208346067_c1ec301a38_m.jpg

Randie:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3153304672
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/3153304672_23605cbfca_m.jpg

 

[katsdogworld]

Thanks, that's helpful, though it would be better still if I could post them within my posts...Do I have to use my photobucket account for that?

 

[Blue Fox]

I use photobucket and it seems to work great