So your argueing that Pam's dog is not red at all just because her nose is liver in pigment. How do you explain the color of her coat then? Its obviously not brown and looks like any other red Poodle with a black nose.Sorry honey, but any dog with a brown or red or whatever color you want to call nose it is a liver pigmented dog. Dogs come in two main colors black and brown (liver) and that is determined by nose and eye color, if your dog has a black nose it is a black dog, if it has a brown nose it is a brown dog. If it has a blue nose it is a dilute of black, if it has a flesh colored or pink tint to it, it is a dilute of brown. Lots of colors can have either black or brown pigment it just depends on the modifiers.
I never said I new it all but I when I make a statement or correct someone I sure as hell know what I'm talking about.
I said she can call the dog whatever color she wants to, it just does not make it true.
So if you stood Pam's Ginger and a red Poodle with a black nose next to each other and they are the same red color in coat, your still going to call Pam's brown just because her nose pigment?