I agree as well. Plus soon your sister will be dressing Enzo up in pink clothes. lol You can't take that! lol
She is a "Doodle" breeder I would advise to look else ware for a puppy
On the topic of "reds" there is no gene in poodles that is "red" like an Irish Setter they are all genetically "Apricot" or dark creams like Labradors. Its just now breeders are keeping the fading gene out and the dogs stay a dark orange color. I have yet to see one as dark as an Irish. Also some dogs are genetically Sable which can look red but its not. The friend I have who was wanting a red Standard went to a breeder and the woman way dyeing puppies to be darker! My friend asked the lady what she was doing and the woman said "Oh just adding a little color to these pups before they go online" needless to say my friend high tailed it out of there!
Well, lol, from looking at her website, she looks like a much better breeder then most of the red Poodle breeder's I have seen. If a good breeder is not web savvy then they have one of there fellow breeder friends do there website. First impressions mean a great deal and internet is the best advertisment for a dog breeder. As you get further into showing and meet reputable breeder's, you will see what Im saying.yeah of course i make sure the breeder health test. i really don't go by some ones website since many people are not web savvy. i seen all of the breeders websites on the apricot and red poodle club. this is how i got in contact with terry farley from farley d poodles. susan osburn (sp) in nevada she has bred the fourth red ch , raquel just finished so i might contact her as well since she is super close to me compared to terry and the canadian breeders.
I still stand by what I said about not caring how their website is lol. I have met many people with great dogs over the 10 years of going to dog shows and their website is crap or out dated. I know they can pay for someone to do the website or have a friend but if they are a good breeder they don't need that kind of avertisment IMO. If i based my opinion on webistes I would end up with a small number of breeders to talk to lol IMO most have HORRIBLE websites .I agree Lumeire's website is nice. This brings to mind American bully kennels. Some of these breeders have the flashest sites great pics etc... There dogs are horrible ..... so the website does not mean anything to me.
I am not so stuck on color but if I can get another red or apricot that is nice then I might get one , other wise blue,silver,black,brown is fine with me. I just won't get a white lol
??? I did not say a american bully is an amstaff nor did I say their dogs are nice .... please re read what I said. I said that they have better flashy websites but their dogs are horrible .... their websites are ghetto but the website is better made than some of these breeders using free website designs
American bullys does not = amstaffs ? If you think so :banghead:
I don't think your being stuck up , I just don't think you are getting what I am saying ...... you can have a fancy website with good info and still have crappy dogs. for you to base a breeder on his or her website is IMO retarded lol seriously I have met many breeders who I would consider getting a dog from and they do not have a website or have a crappy one.
There is a top breeder in my area and her website has nothing really on it ? Her dog was in the top 25 poodles in 2006 and she is a nice informed person about the breed........ Her webiste would not stop me from getting a dog from her.
Don't forget PurplePoodle. you are 22 years old, the same age as my Daughter. You grew up with computers in your life and Me being 47 didn't even learn to turn one on until I was 37. My husband still can't turn off the screen saver but he can build a 20 million dollar intersection and road from scratch. It isn't as easy even to do a free site as you think. Plus being our age half of us can't rememeber from one time to the next what we learned on the PC last time we turned it on.
I'm very computer literate now but I still couldn't design a banner like yours if my life depended on it.
But, I did finally put mine online two months ago and have 850 hits already. I think this would have been impossible if I'd used a free website to build it.
I do have a professional designing a new banner for me now, but it's costing me many dog biscuits to do it.
I mean no disrespect to you being 22, but as we age we may gain valuable knowledge as a breeder, but we can be stupid as heck when it comes to building even a free website with a templet.
Im not all that computer savvy. I may be 26 years old and yes I grew up using a computer from time to time but it was slow and I couldn't stand it. I never used a computer really until the last 2 yrs. Luckily, I have a husband that fails at nothing, so what I can't get done he step's in and completes. I love that hubby! lol He also does pedigree page's for some of our breeder friends but that's it right now. I have confidence that he will make our's look great and teach me too eventually.None taken I have only been internet active for 6 years, we had a computer when I was younger (around 10) but all we did was type and play games.
BTW my banner was make with MS Paint
Some people can learn computer skills quickly and others not so much. I'm the middle of the road type and can do most but not all.
Free web hosting is just as effective as having your own domain name, it all depends on where your site is listed in search engines and where you advertise
Speaking about Trigger being scared of new people....thats what Im talking about when I say that I know of many nice show dogs that came from one non-titled parent for one reason or another. It doesn't mean that that dog isnI use netfirms as a web host and it works well. They have a program you can download and use to build it or you can just buy the domain thru them for like 7 dollars a year. You can set the domain to point to your free site.
I am new to breeding actually and I wont mind admitting it. I have some fantastic mentors that I work with and I have researched for 3 year now, long before I even bought my first standard. We worked hard together to get her Delta Therapy Dog Certification by the time she was a year and 4 days old! I searched for two years to find Trigger to breed Paris to, and went first for conformation and color, I searched for the DD gene so that the puppies couldn't fade. I next went for Temperament and pedigree. Triggers Pedigree is FULL of champions, both American and Russian. He is still young and hasn't been shown, he had a veterinary procedure that was done when he wasn't quite out and made him afraid of people. He is a darling dog but skittish at first of strangers, so he can't be shown yet until he overcomes this. He will be going for hunt titles soon. Paris has many champions in her pedigree too, but I haven't ever shown a dog yet, and I don't think I have the backbone to take criticism like some others do. If we do get a great potential show dog I will keep it. There will be an AKC judge coming to my house at 8 weeks old to grade my puppies for show potential. Any other of my dogs will be sold as a Pet with a spay or neuter contract.
I did get an email a few days ago from a AKC, judge asking about my puppies. Word sure travels fast in the poodle world.
My website is only in the beginning stages, I hope to build it through experience as time goes on. I do put my heart and soul into this. I did have a litter of poodles 11 years ago which worked out well. Only 2 pups.
When I am talking about american bully's I mean this http://www.abkcdogs.org/ they are consider a seperate breed. I don't lump all pit bull type dogs in one category. I would never call an amstaff an american bully nor a apbt nor a staffy or a bull terrier .....
yes I seen bad websites but i can care less about the website. I find a lot of top breeders have HORRIBLE WEBSITES . I guess you think a good website has no pictures or updated events for the kennel etc..., its fine and dandy they have info about the breed and health testing but I came to the website for pictures and current wins or updated litters etc.... I know some breeders who never update and their sites , they are sooooooo old and they have decline in the quality of dogs they bred. there are breeders older than me that can not make web pages like Chickychat stated. I am 24 and I can't even make a website !
How do you think people found good breeders before the internet ? LOL
I agree but some breeders do not spend much time online so again if they have a bad website who cares ........ Thats almost like judging someone based on what type of car they have ..... IMO
Yes you simply made a comment I don't agree with and does not make sense to me.
I won't be getting a dog from a bad breeder .... Like I stated in my hello thread , I been into dogs for most of my life .... I think I know where to find a good breeder. Poodles are just new to me but that does not mean I don't know where to find a quality breeder. This is why I CONTACTED Terry Farley .... :tongue:
Hello Poodle People! I was reading this thread and had to chime in...
I too was looking for a dark red poodle puppy. I searched and searched and searched. I learned a great deal, including some not so savory things about breeders listed in this thread...I'm not gonna smear publicly, but will share privately if interested.
Anywho, after having a horrible interaction with a "breeder" in Iowa, I finally came across Susan at http://www.marquisdiamondstandardpoodles.com
Her website was very informative, I liked that she waited until her dogs were two years old and had passed ALL the requisite poodle health tests. I liked that she competed her dogs, that she cared enough to feed all of her dogs a homemade RAW diet, and, to top it off, she was very quick to respond to my query, answered all questions thoroughly, provided great references, and even though she prefers people to visit her home and kennel to really get a feel for the dogs she was gracious enough to pack three puppies with her to a dog show for me to meet. That's how I ended up with Monroe...He is such a great guy...and, as it turns out, he has been quite successful in his limited show career as well...he's already UKC, Nat. & International CH...next up AKC!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3196026666/" title="monroe's best in show puppy by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3451/3196026666_17df11cb56_m.jpg" width="240" height="209" alt="monroe's best in show puppy"[IMG]
[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3208346067/" title="BIRD!!! by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/3208346067_c1ec301a38_m.jpg" width="161" height="240" alt="BIRD!!!"[IMG]
As you can see, he's not red!!! However, Susan does breed reds as well. She has had her red bitch genetically tested...her color will not fade.
Here's a pic of Randie out of Rose's last litter:
[IMG]http://www.flickr.com/photos/katalystproductions/3153304672/" title="Such a pretty face! by katsdogworld, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/3153304672_23605cbfca_m.jpg" width="213" height="240" alt="Such a pretty face!"[IMG]
Her owner tells me she's actually getting darker...I can't wait to see her again. We'll all be competing at the UKC show coming up in March in Modesto...
Just had to add in my 2 cents...Best of luck in your search![/QUOTE]
My boy Sting (16 wk puppy) is out of Susan's Antigua's Don't Look Back (black male). I didn't have a chance to speak with her yet but Im hoping she may entered in the show Im attending today. Ive heard from the breeder I purchased Sting from that she is wonderful. Im glad to hear you had the same opinion.
I would love to speak with you more but Im heading off to the bay this morning (AKC show). Its nice meeting you and I'd love to share some pics with you and get to know you better.
Susan's actually there now at a show. I have been talking to Brian Cook a little now (emailing). He seems very nice and I can't wait to speak with Susan as well. Somewhere I noticed that Sting and atleast one of the the Poodle's from Harmony Mountain go back to the same pedigree. I don't recall what dog of Harmony's it was. I feel like Im getting on the right track, breeder wise, and Im glad to know that you had a very postive experience with Harmony Mountain as well.Susan Cook from Marquis Diamond Standard Poodles and Harmony Mountain Hunting Pudels (where I bred Paris with Trigger, are co-breeders!)
Paris and Triggers pups wont fade! That picture you posted is the same color as Trigger.
Sorry honey, but you don't know it all. There isn't a liver color in Pit Bulls its called fawn. My Lotus is a red nose fawn and white Pit Bull. They may say the nose is liver in color (describing it) its called a red nose and the colors fawn.Genetically red dogs can not and will not have liver pigment, red nosed pit bulls are not red they are liver in coat and nose color. Pam you can call her whatever color you want it does not mean that she is