FB is such a weird place - especially dog groups. People posting supposedly asking for help with this or that problem but then jumping down your throat if you actually offer suggestions. It is truly sad that anyone can own a dog because clearly so many don't deserve them. They put zero effort into learning about the realities of owning a dog, zero effort in preparation for the arrival and then are "disappointed" when left to their own devices the dog makes the smallest mistake because it was never taught better. Potty training is just the tip of the iceberg. It is a true testament to the intelligence of dogs and their adjustability that they do not lash out against people more often than they do... end of rant - sorry it's been a weird day on facebook..