Advice Requested

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likemagic

Discussion Starter · Aug 24, 2019

I have two standard poodles. A 3.5 year old male who weighs 75lbs and a 1.5 year old female who weighs 37 lbs. I would love to get one more but just from a practical perspective, I could not get another standard. There is barely enough room for me on the bed already!

So I was thinking of getting a teacup or a toy. Would a dog that small be safe mixing in with two big energetic poodles?

Any breeder recommendations in Northern California?

Thanks for the help.

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Dechi

· #2 · Aug 24, 2019

From my personal experience I don’t like mixing very small dogs with big dogs. Small dogs are conscious of their size and I find their true personality doesn’t shine when they feel threatened (even if the dog is very nice, stepping on a small dog could mean severe injury).

I would definitely go for a miniature. Also, please note there is no such thing as a «*teacup*» poodle. Very small poodles are still toy poodles. People out to make quick money will invent use any word to help them sell for more money. If you see someone advertising «*teacup*» poodles, run !

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likemagic

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 24, 2019

Thanks for the advice. I take your point on the teacup issue. When I had braces as a kid my orthodontist had three tiny poodles that he referred to as "teacup" poodles and he would place them on patients laps while he he was working on their (my) teeth. So when I think of very small poodles that's the word that comes to mind. There's probably rules against pets in the dentist office now...

MaizieFrosty

· #4 · Aug 24, 2019

I definitely would not recommend it. Your male is absolutely huge and one wrong step could severely injure a tiny toy, especially since your dogs are young and you describe them as energetic (normal of course for spoos!). As someone who has a toy dog and spoos, I can tell you it's pretty stressful to keep everyone safe around each other. I will not replace my precious Maltese when she passes.

Would you consider a mini poodle? Their size is more sturdy and their energy is more similar to a spoo's. Mine love playing with minis.

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Mufar42

· #5 · Aug 24, 2019

I have a standard who is somewhere around 55 lbs. We also have a boxer in the house who is 84 lbs. A cairn terrier @ 12 lbs and a Chihuahua at 7 lbs. I cannot leave my standard with any of them, well the boxer yes with supervision but not the lil ones. He wants to play and can easily hurt them. In fact he has stepped on my tow so manBut that is just my opinion.

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likemagic

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 24, 2019

He is indeed huge. I will look at minis. I want everyone to be safe and happy!

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MaizieFrosty

· #7 · Aug 24, 2019

likemagic said:
He is indeed huge. I will look at minis. I want everyone to be safe and happy!

:thumb:

Your babies are gorgeous! I'm such a sucker for a black and white parti

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Vita

· #8 · Aug 24, 2019

A 12 week old toy might weigh a mere 3lbs. A big dog could inadvertantly kill it with one misstep. I don't know how much a 12 week old mini-poo weighs, but around a playful 75 lb Spoo I'd keep them strictly supervised until the mini is bigger.

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Rose n Poos

· #9 · Aug 24, 2019

Vita said:
A 12 week old toy might weigh a mere 3lbs. A big dog could inadvertantly kill it with one misstep. I don't know how much a 12 week old mini-poo weighs, but around a playful 75 lb Spoo I'd keep them strictly supervised until the mini is bigger.

Just for comparisons sake, Neo is now about 2years 4months, 14lbs and 14", at 7months he was 12lbs and nearly the same height, at 13weeks 4 days he was 6.1lbs and far too wiggly to know how high at the shoulder. Remo's slightly smaller and he loves bigger dogs but hasn't had much opportunity to play with any. Neo can get his paws and nose over the kitchen table but only just up to the kitchen counter edge.

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lily cd re

· #10 · Aug 24, 2019

I have decided that I think the dogs in the house should not outnumber the people in the future. There are just two people, but three dogs right now. All of our dogs are "large." Two standard poodles and a 100 pound German Shepherd dog...

I co-own a fourth dog with my mom. He would come to live with us if needs be (my mom is 83) and stays over occasionally. He is an mpoo who weighs only about 10 pounds. An mpoo can be a fairly sturdy medium/large-ish dog or can be a peanut like my mom's. When he is here we always supervise and use gates to keep him safe when we aren't home. Adding new dogs is complicated.

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likemagic

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 24, 2019

I appreciate all the advice.

Just to provide a little more color as to why this question came up today. I was poking around craigslist for use housewares and I just randomly searched for the term "poodle" and someone had posted that they were seeking to sell their one year old tiny red poodle.

He hasn't been neutered and has no vaccines. The owner indicated she was selling him because she didn't feel he was safe around her four children under 12.

I was considering "buying" him from her as essentially a very expensive rescue but I obviously don't want to bring him to a situation where he wouldn't be any safer. With me he would get all necessary healthcare but I wouldn't want him crushed under my big guy.

I do generally want a third poodle but I should probably stick with reputable breeders as I have done in the past.

Thanks again for all of the advice.

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MaizieFrosty

· #12 · Aug 24, 2019

I definitely think you did the right thing, even though I get where you were coming from in wanting to give him a good home.

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Mfmst

· #13 · Aug 24, 2019

I think two is the ideal number of poodles to have. Three is a luxury and I would want all to be close to the same size. Unfortunately, I can only have one Spoo and he is an unapologetic bed hog, so probably for the best. As to the red toy, hmmmm. No vaccinations, owner is afraid for her kids. That’s a project.

Rose n Poos

· #14 · Aug 25, 2019 (Edited)

I run across this YouTube video periodically. It's a Standard and Mini playing together, alone at home. The Mini doesn't appear for the first several minutes but then you see why the Standard keeps running off camera

. It's quite long so I just scan thru after a bit. It's fun watching them together and the Standards antics on his/her own.

https://youtu.be/h6DXFgifkQA

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likemagic

Discussion Starter · #15 · Aug 25, 2019

Rose n Poos said:
I run across this YouTube video periodically. It's a Standard and Mini playing together, alone at home. The Mini doesn't appear for the first several minutes but then you see why the Standard keeps running off camera . It's quite long so I just scan thru after a bit. It's fun watching them together and the Standards antics on his/her own.

https://youtu.be/h6DXFgifkQA

Great video. It reminds me a lot of the nature of the relationship between my 40lb girl and 75lb boy. She's the boss of all of us.

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MaizieFrosty

· #16 · Aug 25, 2019

Rose n Poos said:
https://youtu.be/h6DXFgifkQA

I'm sorry, but that's an awful video. The spoo is absolutely nuts and the mini was trying to tell him off many times in the bits I watched (tail down, distressed barking). Then the spoo starts eating the tag on the pillow or something? Lazy owner needs to exercise that pup.

jojogal001

· #17 · Aug 25, 2019

I think it’s a good video. I really enjoyed watching it. Sometimes they are playing, and at times the mpoo is teaching when enough is enough and the spoo responded to that. The mpoo didn’t have to keep coming out. It was able to walk away when it was ready. When Zeke and Dory would play it all sounded very vicious. It wasn’t though, they were having a great time. When done, they’d just walk away from each other. But the spoo is only a puppy and has to learn somehow.

The little dogs usually rule the roost, and take care of themselves well. I had a 12 pound cockapoo a very long time ago, along with a Great Dane. He was very respectful of her small size and played very gently with her, and only when he was lying down.

Even the littlest ones demand respect from the larger dogs. By the way, the Great Dane was 160 pounds. This one you are thinking of getting will set the rules. I’d get him neutered rright away. Are you dogs spayed and neutered? I hope so. If not there could be male rivalry in the home.

I’d keep a close eye on them for quite a while after getting him, and would not leave them alone unsupervised. We have seen videos on here of tiny puppies and big standards playing together. Usually the spoo is laying down and the tiny puppy is running to him and they are mouth a wrestling... a very sweet way to play.

Only you can make the decision of whether or not to get him, I just wanted to show you the other side of it.

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jojogal001

· #18 · Aug 25, 2019

Oh, I also have a mpoo who’s is 6 years and 17 pounds. At 1 year he weighed 14 pounds and the same height. And at 12 was old when I got him he was 5.5 pounds.

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