Just verifying, is the only time this happens when you pick him up?Will he Eventually change and react normally?
Or he could stay like this for long time?
He is 3 weeks in the house. When we come to him he is afraid.Just verifying, is the only time this happens when you pick him up?
Is there any other circumstance where a different action or different person causes him to react by peeing?
Did the breeder say that he'd done this with them or someone or some action while with them?
Did the vet say he's healthy overall?
Is he coming to you before you pick him up or are you going to him?
Will he come to you and sit in your lap without peeing? If so, you might try picking him up from that position rather than from the floor. Try standing slowly from a sitting position on a chair or sofa with him in your arms. Does he pee then?
If not, you've got a building point. Let him get used to that by practicing two or three times a day. Then try from the floor up only a couple of feet then put him down. Does he pee then? If not, practice that at different times like above.
If you can get to where you can pick him up either of those ways reliably without peeing, then try the full pick up, slowly.
There is something called The Rule of Three that might partially apply here. It's generally thought of with rescue dogs but the concepts are still applicable. These are still only guidelines, not hard and fast rules.
In the first three days at home with you, your dog may:
In the first three weeks at home with you, your dog may:
- Feel overwhelmed by their surroundings
- Not feel comfortable enough to be himself
- Not want to eat their food or drink their water
- Be scared and unsure of what’s going on
- Shut down and curl up in their bed
- Behave definitely and test your boundaries
After three months at home with you, your dog may:
- Start to settle in
- Feel more comfortable
- Figure out his environment
- Get into the routine you’ve set
- Let their guard down and start showing their real personality
- Start showing ingrained behavior issues
- Figure out this is their new home
- Feel comfortable at home
- Have built trust and a true bond with you
- Have gained a complete sense of security with their new family
- Embrace their new routine wholeheartedly
If this is submissive peeing or he's still just unsure, it's likely that he'll grow out of it, as my Remo did. It's also possible, but less likely that this can go on longer.
On the medical side, it may be a still immature bladder. This wouldn't require medical attention, just getting a bit older.
As PTP reminded, how comfortable you can help him to be, and help build his confidence by going slowly and letting him see that there's nothing to fear will build deeper trust and help to resolve this.
Is he still otherwise acting normally, playing and such?
I'm going to ask something different.
Would you mind describing what a regular day is like for him?
Where does he sleep? Alone, or with you, or Max? In a crate or free to roam?
What's the daily routine for him and you and Max from wake up to go to sleep?
Would it be possible to take another video of him when he appears afraid of something?
Here is the video I uploaded.FWoP makes a good point. In his life before he was very likely allowed the independence to move and go where he chose, within some reasonable boundaries. By being up in someone's arms for much of the day, that independence is gone.
It's very tempting and done with love to try to hold these little ones close, literally, but its not helping to build confidence. Imagine yourself in his paws.
Is Max picked up as often and held as much thru the day or is he given the ability to choose?
I don't pick my boys up very often unless there's a need. Sometimes that need is mine, to just plant a smooch on their nose, but then they're right back down. There's plenty of snuggle time whenever we're all relaxing. They choose to come to us and we have a lot of cuddle time then.
What other kinds of activities are you doing together? Is there any time spent on fun training daily?
You know that poodles are very smart and need to have their brains engaged every day too. If he's got the basic obedience skills learned consider doing some trick training.
AKC training - get certified or just learn the steps
AKC Canine Good Citizen - mix or pure breed
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AKC Trick Dog - mix or pure breed
Teaching a dog something new and fun and helping them master new skills is a wonderful way to build confidence and make your bond even stronger.
Thats correct.As I understand it, two breeders are in collaboration. Molodets pup, Munchen, was bred by one and sold for her by the other. This all checks out.
I don't think Munchen was a return as there's another pup still on the AKC marketplace being advertised. I'm kind of inclined to think the actual breeder is going thru something and her breeder friend is helping out. The pup was flown with a nanny to Molodets after much discussion with the breeder who had Munchen under her care.
Poor baby.Here is the video I uploaded.
That body language reminds me a lot of my mom's Yorkie when she first came home to us. We had never seen anything like it. She was terrified. She wanted desperately to be picked up and reassurance but was way too afraid to be picked up, walking around trying to find somewhere 'safe'. Extreme anxiety. Actually with me just pure terror- no desire to come to me at all, though she liked my mom.
Getting down to her level and a lot of patience - not reaching for the dog but waiting for it to come to you- helped a lot. This might take many minutes before they do. We used to say we treated her like a feral cat. Ignore ignore ignore don't look at the dog, just have a great treat casually in our hands.
We also had success with providing her with lots of hiding spots (coffee tables and a crate) and Rescue remedy. She still will hide under a table if she is nervous about being caught, so she can feel safe while you hook on a leash. I had success with making her like me by feeding table scraps as I ate. She is now an accomplished beggar, the only dog I have ever had that begged, but I said at the time that I would rather a dog that begged that I could touch than one that ran in fear. I think me sitting still on a chair and the safety of the table to hide under helped too. She took a very long time to toilet train - we finally trusted her at about 4.
Taking her any where really backfired, no socialization was possible until she was more confident with us.
She remains an anxious dog, but at 5,has grown in leaps and bounds and tiny milestones with lots of patience, lots of treats, and lots of respecting her fears. She has a social life, and loves old ladies. She wants nothing to do with children and has found dog friends. She learned lots of lessons from our St. Bernard, and now my standard poodle, and loves nothing more than a nice run in the woods.
When I bought him home he was extremely shy, week later he was comfortable.
His 3rd week is today and he is shy again,
Hi,Im taking him to the vet on Tuesday,