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Thanks so much Rose N Poos ! I hope the ability to compile it all together becomes easier sooner.

I suggest to everyone that has a good breeder not on this list that they suggest that their breeder provide the information on their sites that will allow them to be on this excellent list! This will be my first place to look for sure :)
Thank you for that suggestion to members!

Not being able to edit the original has been a PITA for sure, but the most frustrating is to learn of breeders that I feel sure do the testing, but if they have a website it often doesn't contain either sire/dam names or their health testing results or links. Facebook as a contact or marketing method is not ideal for finding this information.
I am left with going to OFA and searching by the kennel name to see if there's any current dogs listed or by accidentally running across the breeder name on PawPrint or other labs if they've set the profile to public.

You might've noticed in the updated List more than a couple of references to verify testing with the breeder!
 

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I love this idea!
I'm going to bite the bullet and recommend my breeder (I'm on a waitlist for an adolescent started training and to be finished as a service dog). I don't have my dog from them yet, but I've been in communication for about 18 months and think they deserve a mention.

APAW - American Poodles At Work
Located in Massachusetts
Standard poodle breeder primarily towards service dogs, but occasionally goes elsewhere-- lines have been part of other programs like nearby DoeValley's, who I believe have some hunting poodles. Jillian uses BetterBred as part of her program (genetic diversity tool) and has been great to work with so far, very open about good and bad and indulges my curiosity enthusiastically to talk about health testing, breeding decisions, OFA vs Penn Hip results...she's been fantastic for me.

Full disclosure that I do not have a poodle in hand yet, but I'm far enough in the process that I'm pretty confident that this is my breeder and if not, it'll be a matter of program and my needs diverging down the line.

Also a note that her website is down but two public Facebook pages are there.
Just want to caution you against APAW. If you look into the health testing results of the dogs she's bred, you'll see some sketchy things... like bitches with cataracts, amongst other things. I considered them years ago and was extremely disturbed by what I turned up.

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Just want to caution you against APAW. If you look into the health testing results of the dogs she's bred, you'll see some sketchy things... like bitches with cataracts, amongst other things. I considered them years ago and was extremely disturbed by what I turned up.
You might've noticed in the updated List more than a couple of references to verify testing with the breeder!
As you mention, things happen. Since that was years back, one does hope that she has tightened up the process. I see 45 names of APAW dogs on the OFA site currently. I'm also not looking at every single result nor am I able to identify which currently available pups, if any, came from which sire/dam but I think it's clear that she's doing health testing and publishing on OFA. Health testing is the primary criteria for this list and that's being done.

It's always going to have to be up to the searcher to finish the due diligence.
 

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It appears that APAW has improved. I would though, appreciate more accurate information. If I look online there are more than one APAW. Is this Am Poodles at Work?, Advocacy for Pets and Affordable Wellness, etc, etc. I have no clue what you are really referring to without a weblink.
 

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It appears that APAW has improved. I would though, appreciate more accurate information.
Man o man, I would too!! It would so make this a simpler task. Your suggestion for folks to contact their breeders and
suggest that their breeder provide the information on their sites that will allow them to be on this excellent list
is right on target.

All that would take is for the breeder to have a website or navigable FB page or other publicly available site that lists all their current sires/dams and the link to OFA or the testing sites for results, and to keep that list updated. Registry numbers or names would be cool, too.

Doesn't sound like asking for a lot but I've seen that many, maybe even most breeders, seem to forget that they have a website, or other avenue of making their kennel name public, let alone find the time to update it. If I kept the criteria to my original intent, there would be far fewer breeders on this list, even tho more would qualify.

This is why I take the fallback position so seriously. If we can inform people of what to look for and why it's so important to the health of their own poodle and the Poodle breed (standards, midcentury bottleneck anyone?), and they have the resources to complete their own, most current assessment, then that may be all I can do.

This list, as long as it lasts, will always be a work in progress. Breeders start up, breeders retire, the breeding dogs change. I've come to see that I can only provide the tools and hopefully a lot of good choices to use them on.
 

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It appears that APAW has improved. I would though, appreciate more accurate information. If I look online there are more than one APAW. Is this Am Poodles at Work?, Advocacy for Pets and Affordable Wellness, etc, etc. I have no clue what you are really referring to without a weblink.
Yes, they are American Poodles at Work. Jillian actually joined PF in 2015, I think it was, but didn't become active.

I've found a website with a broken entry link but you can still get in thru the side door


FB

and another FB page

and the OFA link
 
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No idea if just a fluke or a fix but I got back in to do some edits. The most current iteration is now back at Post #1 and trying yet another title.
 

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Hi there! I'm new to the chat but have read through the thread and am learning as much as possible. I have been searching for a red toy poodle without much success finding a trustworthy breeder. Wondering if anyone has suggestions for me? We're located in NYC, but have a car and are willing to travel. Thanks in advance! :)
 

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Hi and Welcome!

This thread is Stickied above the member posting section to take suggestions from members for breeders to add to the List only. This thread is not intended for discussions :).

If you would go to the same section you're in here, and start your own thread, it will help your visibility in your quest. Just copy and paste your message into a new thread of your own. Also, there are some current threads in that same section from a member or two with the same quest in the same area. You'll see a number of specific recommendations form members in that thread.

Good Luck!
 
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Rose n Poos... I just came across my list from when I was looking for a poodle here in Ontario. I took out the ones I think you already have and found a couple others. I believe all test, but no one posts their results online :( I

Elan
Stately
Pristine
Tudorose
Signet
Rockhaven
Tallan
Beaucaniche

Ottawa Valley Poodle Club (some mini breeders here too)

Seransil (Alberta)
 

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Thanks! I've seen some of those kennel lines listed in pedigrees. It stands to reason that they are doing the testing. If i can find any current results, I want to add them.
 

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I'm getting some results by searching OFA by kennel name. So far I'm pulling results for Elan, Signet, Stately, Pristine, Rockhaven, Beaucaniche and Seransil, but not Tudorose or Tallan. And I know I've seen Tudorose in some fancy places ;).

I'll get those with results added as well as the Ottawa Valley PC. Another "it stands to reason" is that if they're on the PC list, it's pretty certain that they're doing the testing.

I'll keep those last two on my worksheet and we'll see what happens when I dig some more :).
 

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Some breeders I have been exploring as I research to get a puppy for my family. They seem to have beautiful dogs and do testing:
1. Stonehaus Poodles
Huntington, MA 01050
2. D and D Standard Poodles
Pennsylvania
3.Seransil Standard Poodles
 

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Got some updates added in, some US including some Poodle Clubs and a few breeders, Canada got some additional breeders and other Resources, and an interesting International list from one of the Canadian sources. Get your translators out for those. :) Lots of nice photos in them!
 

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Some breeders I have been exploring as I research to get a puppy for my family. They seem to have beautiful dogs and do testing:
1. Stonehaus Poodles
Huntington, MA 01050
2. D and D Standard Poodles
Pennsylvania
3.Seransil Standard Poodles
I'm sorry I didn't see this before I finished the edit. I got Seransil just added and have the others on my list to vet then they'll come in on the next edit.


FWoP, I think I've got them all in.
 

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GEOGRAPHICAL BREEDERS LIST AND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES

PLEASE READ THIS FIRST
What this list is NOT:

This list is not an endorsement of any breeder by Poodle Forum
This list is not a list to just go buy from without doing more investigation
This list is not comprehensive

What this list IS:
This list is a geographical resource compiled from suggestions by PF members and breeder names found and reviewed for minimum health standards in the course of other research.

This list is just a starting point. Personal experiences vary. It鈥檚 up to the searcher to learn what to look for in a breeder and decide what鈥檚 important to them. Poodle Forum is here as a resource to learn those criteria.

I'm verifying the genetic and other health testing as far as I can but ALWAYS verify current test results on the breeding parents.

Eventually I hope to add an additional key indicating if Health Testing is mentioned, and results listed or linked on the website, or viewed at OFA or other testing site.

Even conscientious breeders may not keep websites updated - if they have one. Ask the breeder which tests have been done on dam and sire of the litter and where the original results can be seen.

See Health Testing Criteria below.

If I were writing a motto for PF, I think it would be something like 鈥淚s It Good For The Poodle?鈥 meaning both the individual pup you bring into your family, and the breed into the future.

RESOURCES

Poodle Club of America - Look up local or regional clubs for breeder referral. A good resource for a lot of information


AKC Registry Lookup - by kennel name or dog name or registry number

Health Testing Criteria - Parents Are Tested Not Puppies - Additional Testing

Toy Minimum Testing Criteria
prcd Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA) DNA testing from an approved laboratory
Eye clearance by the Companion Animal Eye Registry (CAER)
Patellar Luxation OFA evaluation

Miniature Minimum Testing Criteria
prcd Progressive Retinal Atrophy (PRA) DNA testing from an approved laboratory
Eye clearance by the Companion Animal Eye Registry (CAER)
Hip Dysplasia evaluation from an approved agency
Patellar Luxation OFA evaluation

Standard Minimum Testing Criteria
Hip Dysplasia evaluation from an approved agency
Eye clearance by the Companion Animal Eye Registry (CAER)
Plus Health Elective (At least one of the following tests):
OFA Thyroid evaluation from an approved laboratory
OFA SA Evaluation from an approved dermapathologist
Congenital Cardiac Exam
Advanced Cardiac Exam

OFA Lookup - by kennel name or dog name or registry number - Orthopedic Foundation for Animals

Poodle Health Registry database

Poodle Pedigree Database

Versatility In Poodles
Its primary purpose is to improve the health and promote the many talents of this remarkable breed.

Poodle History Project

United Kennel Club

United Poodle Association

Buying A Puppy Safely

GEOGRAPHIC BREEDER LIST

ABBREVIATIONS/KEYS
S/ Standard
M/ Miniature
T/ Toy
PFM/ Poodle Forum Member

HEALTH TESTING DONE BY BREEDER - Always verify current results on OFA or testing lab site of breeding sire and dam of litter
HT1/ Health testing of breeding parents mentioned on site 鈥 info or links provided by breeder 鈥 verification by searcher needed of which tests done and results verified at OFA/testing lab site

HT2/ Health testing (of breeding parents) mentioned on site 鈥 no info or links 鈥 searcher to verify with breeder which tests done and results verified at OFA/testing lab site

HT3/ Health testing (of breeding parents) not mentioned on site 鈥 searcher to verify with breeder if any tests done, which tests done, and results verified at OFA/testing lab site.
HT4/ Health testing found on OFA but no corresponding breeder site to review (this for the FB or word of mouth breeders) - searcher to verify...
pending updates

Multi State
Breeders here all do appropriate health testing.

Poodlesonline .com

PoodleBreeders .com

Poodle Variety Breeders

Good Dog .com

United Poodle Association

Poodle Clubs



US by state

鈥 Alabama

鈥 Alaska

鈥 Arizona

Bernice Cano [email protected] - Vail, AZ
www.gooddog.com/breeders/belstar-toy-poodles-arizona
Belstar Toy Poodles
T
Daniel Chavez- 480-603-6734 Phoenix, Arizona area-
Danfour
M

鈥 Arkansas
S

鈥 California
SoCal
S/M
HT1
Marquis Diamond Standards
Milford Ca
S
HT1
M/T
HT2
M
HT1
Zamora
T

Karamba
S/T
S
Welcome to 5-Star Poodles
S

鈥 Colorado
Jim Johnson Colorado Springs, CO 鈥 719-235-3523 鈥 [email protected]
JJ鈥檚
M/S
Harmony Miniature Poodles Arvada, CO - 720-352-3135 - [email protected]
https://harmonypoodles.com/
M

鈥 Connecticut
pending verification
Rodell Toy Poodles
T
www.madelapoodles.com/
S
M

鈥 Delaware
M

鈥 Florida
M/T
pending update and ck testing
AKC Miniature Poodles
Acclaim Miniature Poodles
M
Anna-Ash Poodles

鈥 Georgia
G8rcreek Poodles

鈥 Hawaii

鈥 Idaho

鈥 Illinois

Terrifick Standard Poodles
S

鈥 Indiana
S
鈥 Iowa

鈥 Kansas

鈥 Kentucky

S
S
Magic Hour Poodles
S

鈥 Louisiana
New Orleans
S PFM

Maine

鈥 Maryland

S

Massachusetts

鈥 Michigan

鈥 Minnesota

M PFM
M
www.allurepoodles.net/
M
S/M

Mississippi

鈥 Missouri

Noir Poodles
Small S
Forest Ridge Toy Poodles Forest Ridge Toy Poodles
T

Montana

鈥 Nebraska

鈥 Nevada

S/M/T

鈥 New Hampshire

鈥 New Jersey

S
S
M

鈥 New Mexico
Mickey Kern Grants, NM - (505) 290-7835 鈥 [email protected]
Newmont
T
DeWitt Bolden Albuquerque - 505-797-1653
Completely Gone to the Dogs
M

鈥 New York
S
Propert's Way Ranch
S
M
pending verification not breeding at this time
S/M
M
Silvabirch poodles
T
S (small)
HT1
http://poodlesdegrenier.com/
S
Website just stopped working 6 29 20

鈥 North Carolina
M
Eaglehill-South Poodles
M
Tintlet
S/M

鈥 North Dakota

鈥 Ohio

ByRequest Poodles
http://byrequestpoodles.com/
ByRequest
S/M
Standard Poodle Breeder | Perigueux Poodles | United States
S

Oklahoma
M

鈥 Oregon
S

Pennsylvania
FarleysD S PFM
S
S
S (small)

鈥 Rhode Island

鈥 South Carolina

鈥 South Dakota

鈥 Tennessee

M
S
S

Texas
S/M
M
T
Karbit
Texas S/M (true moyen plus tails and claws)

鈥 Utah
Desert Reef Poodles
Desert Reef Poodles
Karen Green St George, UT - (435) 688-1739 (435) 619-6019 - [email protected] 鈥 S

鈥 Vermont

鈥 Virginia

鈥 Washington State

M
S/M/T
S
Beverly Jean Nelson: 206-550-2741 Seattle area
Heatherly
T/M
S
S

鈥 West Virginia

鈥 Wisconsin

鈥 Wyoming

APRICOT AND RED STANDARDS AT -----------MINARETS POODLES
S

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International

Canada

Canadian Kennel Club

CKC | Purebred Puppies, Dog Competitions, Show Dog Events | CKC
Poodle Club Of Canada
Poodle 鈥 Poodle club of Canada
Ottawa Valley Poodle Club
Ottawa Valley Poodle Club 鈥 Serving Ottawa and Surrounding Areas
Poodle Club of Ontario
Poodle Club Of Ontario
Poodle Club of Alberta
Poodle Club of Alberta
Canada鈥檚 Guide to Dogs - Poodle
Standard Poodle Clubs - Canada's Guide to Dogs


Breeder Listings

Multi Provinces

Poodle Club of Canada Breeder List

http://www.poodleclubcanada.club/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/PCC2020Breeders.pdf
Canadian Kennel Club Breeder List
Puppy List & Approved Breeders | CKC
Ottawa Valley Poodle Club Breeder List
Breeder Listing 鈥 Ottawa Valley Poodle Club

BC


Alberta

Seransil Standard Poodle Home
S

Saskatchewan
TEMPLE CITY POODLES
S/T

Ontario
Arreau Red Standard Poodles
Arreau Standard Poodles
S PFM
Standard Poodle Breeder | Boarding | Grooming | Udora ON near Toronto
S
Duenna Poodles 鈥 Home of Duenna Poodles
M
Home
M
Adanac Poodles of Canada - Home
Adanac
M
Tudorose Standard Poodles
S
http://www.groomtobloompetsalon.com/new-index
S
Elan Standard Poodles - Elan Poodles
S
http://www.rockhavenpoodles.com/
S
Pristine Standard Poodles
S
https://www.facebook.com/TaraDawn23/
Tallan Standards
S
https://www.beaucanichestandardpoodles.com
S

Quebec
Opus Poodles
S/M
poodlesglow
M

PEI
https://www.leeannspoodles.com/
M


United Kingdom

The Kennel Club


Kennel Club UK Health Testing Guidelines
Potential dog owners should be aware that, at present, the application of various health screening results to breeding programmes is not always straightforward, and breeders may make choices for various reasons. A responsible breeder though, will always be willing to discuss relevant health issues with you. Breed clubs are often useful sources of breed-specific information.

Toy Poodle

Schemes or advice relevant to this breed
The following schemes, tests and/ or advice are mandatory requirements for Kennel Club Assured Breeders. All other breeders are strongly advised to use these schemes, tests and/ or advice.

DNA test - prcd-PRA
It is strongly recommended that both Kennel Club Assured Breeders and non-Kennel Club Assured Breeders should use the following schemes, tests and/ or advice.
Eye testing

The list above is not necessarily comprehensive, other available health tests can be found at DNA screening schemes and results or for further advice please contact your local breed club.
From <Health Information for Poodle (Toy)>

Miniature Poodle

Schemes or advice relevant to this breed
The following schemes, tests and/ or advice are mandatory requirements for Kennel Club Assured Breeders. All other breeders are strongly advised to use these schemes, tests and/ or advice.
DNA test - prcd-PRA
It is strongly recommended that both Kennel Club Assured Breeders and non-Kennel Club Assured Breeders should use the following schemes, tests and/ or advice.
Eye testing
The following other schemes, tests and/ or advice are available and should also be considered.
DNA test - OC
The list above is not necessarily comprehensive, other available health tests can be found at DNA screening schemes and results or for further advice please contact your local breed club.
From <Health Information for Poodle (Miniature)>

Standard Poodle

Schemes or advice relevant to this breed
The following schemes, tests and/ or advice are mandatory requirements for Kennel Club Assured Breeders. All other breeders are strongly advised to use these schemes, tests and/ or advice.
BVA/KC Hip Dysplasia Scheme
Eye testing
It is strongly recommended that both Kennel Club Assured Breeders and non-Kennel Club Assured Breeders should use the following schemes, tests and/ or advice.
Breed Club test - Sebaceous adenitis
The following other schemes, tests and/ or advice are available and should also be considered.
DNA test - vWD
DNA test - prcd-PRA
DNA test - PRA (rcd4)
The list above is not necessarily comprehensive, other available health tests can be found at DNA screening schemes and results or for further advice please contact your local breed club.
From <Health Information for Poodle (Standard)>

Breeder Listings

All UK

Champdogs


Kennel Club UK Find a Puppy

Kennel Club Assured Breeders

International
The F茅d茅ration Cynologique Internationale is the World Canine Organisation.
It includes 99 members and contract partners (one member per country) that each issue their own pedigrees and train their own judges.

Poodle
Europe
The Americas & Caribbean
Asia, Africa & Oceania
Planet Poodle

Clubs from Around the World:
Just a quick correction-- Temple City is in Alberta, Canada, not SK. If you could edit that, that would be awesome-- thanks for taking the time to put this together for us!
 

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Just a quick correction-- Temple City is in Alberta, Canada, not SK. If you could edit that, that would be awesome-- thanks for taking the time to put this together for us!
I will, thanks for mentioning it. I somehow think I pulled that from somewhere online so if that's how it happened, I'll let you know too.
If it's just old girl not paying attention, my apologies :).

Done!
 
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