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Old 05-03-2019, 04:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Well here is my question for the study. If they used PACKMATES in wolves - did they use pack mates in dogs? I know for a fact that dogs can "share" food without any benefit to themselves. When I had Stan the Pointer (very skinny and a picky eater) and Ollie the Dalmatian (who would have eaten anything that was not nailed down and always on the pudgy side) I had to watch the two like a hawk. Ollie would scarf down his food in 2 minutes and then vey nonchalantly beg Stan to give up his - which he would do 9 out of 10 times if I was not looking! If I locked them in different rooms to eat - Stan would always save some to "give" to Ollie later. Stan was the older of the two and ruled Ollie with an iron fist. So wether they used dogs that functioned as a pack or family unit is a crucial point to this study in my opinion.
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think it's rather a useless thing to compare wolves to dogs in that way. Dogs are not true pack animals. They simply are not like wolves. It's like comparing human behavior to chimpanzee behavior. Of course we don't do everything the same or uniform way.
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This is really interesting. It makes you wonder if domestication did rid the instinct of helping others in the pack by offering food.

And on the subject of cats, when they bring you a dead bird, rat, dead whatever and offer it to you, itís because they are accepting you, like you and respect you.

They are offering you a gift, and if you receive it that way the behavior usually stops. They are honoring you in a way.


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Question what about the wild dogs they are in packs. I guess not wild but have no home. In Porto Rico they have poor dogs wondering around, or they did years ago when I was there, I know as I feed from the outside venders. We were there 2 weeks and I would feed them a couple timed a day. Next thing you know we would come out of the hotel, and 4 or 5 dogs would follow me, I would by more sandwiches for them
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Question what about the wild dogs they are in packs. I guess not wild but have no home. In Porto Rico they have poor dogs wondering around, or they did years ago when I was there, I know as I feed from the outside venders. We were there 2 weeks and I would feed them a couple timed a day. Next thing you know we would come out of the hotel, and 4 or 5 dogs would follow me, I would by more sandwiches for them
Those sound like feral dogs how you describe them. Dogs don't really live in packs per say...not in the organized sense of the term. They're usually random dogs that come to scavenge. They're not always the same dogs that scientists observe...some come and go, other appear, then leave. Scavenging animals aren't typically pack animals, as they aren't hunting large game where that organization and larger number is needed. Sometimes wild dogs are in a family...mom, pop and the kids. It happens occasionally, but is rare that they form a pack made up of many dogs. Even with wolves, it is usually a family if there's a group, not a pack of a lot of unrelated wolves. Rarely it has been observed though. The breeding pair are the parents just like with humans. So naturally, by default, the parents are the heads of the family. Here are a couple of things you might like.

https://www.funpawcare.com/2014/09/1...-pack-animals/

The 'dogs are pack animals' myth | Stuff.co.nz
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I doubt if Buck would share, he is always trying to pretend he’s still hungry or we skipped his feeding. (As if!) With wolves, I think it’s more a matter of the adult being replete and the rest up for grabs.
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