Why I Donít Donate To The ASPCA - Page 2 - Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too!
   

Go Back   Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too! > General Discussion > General Off-Topic Chat

General Off-Topic Chat Chat about everything not relating to poodles.

PoodleForum.com is the premier Poodle Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-10-2019, 07:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 5,288, Level: 49 Points: 5,288, Level: 49 Points: 5,288, Level: 49
Activity: 72.7% Activity: 72.7% Activity: 72.7%
Last Achievements
 
jojogal001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Names of dogs: Zekefur, Stella
Poodle Type: Mini Sable Parti
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 733
Thanks: 1,178
Thanked 825 Times in 396 Posts
Default

You really have to thoroughly check out ď no killĒ shelters. I know the Orlando/Sanford Humane society (SPCA) is no kill. But there is a catch. The dogs and cats who have been there too long are sent to the county animal shelter, and they kill them.

Do rescues do the same? Do they give up n dogs and cats that nobody wants? They all say they donít but...?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
__________________


52 Weeks of Stella
~~~~~~~~~~~~~And~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Her Breakthroughs in the First 4 Weeks
Do you ever wonder why dog is God spelled backwards?
jojogal001 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to jojogal001 For This Useful Post:
cigoehring78 (03-11-2019), lily cd re (03-11-2019), Mfmst (03-11-2019)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-11-2019, 04:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 204,553, Level: 100 Points: 204,553, Level: 100 Points: 204,553, Level: 100
Activity: 100.0% Activity: 100.0% Activity: 100.0%
Last Achievements
Award-Showcase
 
lily cd re's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Names of dogs: Lily, Javelin and Peeves (GSD)
Poodle Type: 2 standards
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 21,531
Thanks: 25,258
Thanked 35,901 Times in 15,280 Posts
Default

If you follow Ian Dunbar you are probably aware that his main mission in seeking for owners to be better trainers is so that puppies are fully able to become wonderful adult dogs. It is his belief that good puppy training would eliminate lots of behaviors that people decide they can't live with later on in the dog's life (house soiling, poor ability to interact safely with other dogs, unreliable tolerance for diverse people (especially children) and destructive chewing). As he puts it the first thing is to lock the dog in a little used space such as a bathroom, basement or the garage. Once the dog starts barking incessantly to be allowed back into family space it gets tied up in the yard and then the neighbors complain and the dog goes off to the shelter or rescue. That sad path could be eliminated 99+% of the time if people really did the right things when their dogs were puppies. If that happened then the rescue industry would collapse in large measure. I would celebrate that day with the biggest party I could throw.


Please understand that I am not trying to say I think any of you who have rescue dogs shouldn't have adopted them, but rather that they didn't need to be rescued/rehomed in the first place.
__________________

"Democracy Dies in Darkness" Washington Post
Catherine, CGC Evaluator
Lily AKC: CGC CD HIT CDX, RN RA RE RAE...RAE10 RM2 Multiple Rally High Combined, NA NAJ, TKN Achiever Dog
Peeves AKC: CGC BN RN RA
Javelin AKC: CGC RN TKN Achiever Dog (landed on Long Island July 10, 2015!)

https://www.poodleforum.com/24-perfo...ing-ready.html
https://www.poodleforum.com/24-perfo...-way-rach.html
lily cd re is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2019, 05:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 55,602, Level: 100 Points: 55,602, Level: 100 Points: 55,602, Level: 100
Activity: 5.0% Activity: 5.0% Activity: 5.0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Names of dogs: Bella and Cayenne
Poodle Type: toy and teacup
Location: MD
Posts: 4,478
Thanks: 979
Thanked 4,965 Times in 2,568 Posts
Default

I do not think the day will come when shelters and rescues are not necessary, people's lives change daily from financially, divorce, illness, etc. So taking care of the local societies and rescues will always be a must. Nothing worse than seeing a little old man or woman having to give up their pets.

I have a friend soon to be a client, who is ill, but will not leave her home, because she has 2 little dogs 4 and 6 pounds, she adores they are about 9 years old. The children do not want her to bring the dogs, and the assisted living will only allow one of the dogs. So I am keeping my eye and ears open for some that would take both when the time comes, they are brother and sister. Breaks my heart, as I would feel the same. She was in the hospital many times and they are in the kennel, her last will was 4000
__________________
glorybeecosta is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to glorybeecosta For This Useful Post:
jojogal001 (03-11-2019), Mfmst (03-11-2019)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-11-2019, 06:16 AM   #14 (permalink)
Member
Points: 506, Level: 10 Points: 506, Level: 10 Points: 506, Level: 10
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 58
Thanks: 90
Thanked 82 Times in 37 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jojogal001 View Post
You really have to thoroughly check out ď no killĒ shelters. I know the Orlando/Sanford Humane society (SPCA) is no kill. But there is a catch. The dogs and cats who have been there too long are sent to the county animal shelter, and they kill them.

Do rescues do the same? Do they give up n dogs and cats that nobody wants? They all say they donít but...?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk


Many no kill shelters specify that they do not euthanize adoptable dogs...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
cigoehring78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2019, 07:09 AM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 5,288, Level: 49 Points: 5,288, Level: 49 Points: 5,288, Level: 49
Activity: 72.7% Activity: 72.7% Activity: 72.7%
Last Achievements
 
jojogal001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Names of dogs: Zekefur, Stella
Poodle Type: Mini Sable Parti
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 733
Thanks: 1,178
Thanked 825 Times in 396 Posts
Default

But thatís what Iím saying... the shelter does not kill adoptable dogs. But if they are there too long they turn them over to the county animal shelter... which does.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
__________________


52 Weeks of Stella
~~~~~~~~~~~~~And~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Her Breakthroughs in the First 4 Weeks
Do you ever wonder why dog is God spelled backwards?
jojogal001 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jojogal001 For This Useful Post:
MerrysSarah (03-11-2019)
Old 03-11-2019, 07:20 AM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 5,288, Level: 49 Points: 5,288, Level: 49 Points: 5,288, Level: 49
Activity: 72.7% Activity: 72.7% Activity: 72.7%
Last Achievements
 
jojogal001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Names of dogs: Zekefur, Stella
Poodle Type: Mini Sable Parti
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 733
Thanks: 1,178
Thanked 825 Times in 396 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lily cd re View Post
If That sad path could be eliminated 99+% of the time if people really did the right things when their dogs were puppies. If that happened then the rescue industry would collapse in large measure..

There are soooo many reasons dogs go into shelters that itís crazy! I think those reasons make up more than 75% of the rescues. There are dogs that run away and are never found, people have to move, for many reasons, and are absolutely unable to take their dogs with them. Some people lose their jobs, the dog gets sick and they canít pay the vet as most vets will no longer bill the person, so they give it up to a shelter. Others become old or ill and have no other choice. So many reasons. The rescue world will never largely collapse because the training, or lack there of, issue is just a small part of it.

You may have seen otherwise, but I volunteered for a rescue for many years, and I find this to be true.



Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
__________________


52 Weeks of Stella
~~~~~~~~~~~~~And~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Her Breakthroughs in the First 4 Weeks
Do you ever wonder why dog is God spelled backwards?
jojogal001 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jojogal001 For This Useful Post:
Mfmst (03-11-2019)
Old 03-11-2019, 07:57 AM   #17 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 51,262, Level: 100 Points: 51,262, Level: 100 Points: 51,262, Level: 100
Activity: 99.7% Activity: 99.7% Activity: 99.7%
Last Achievements
 
Mfmst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Names of dogs: Buck
Poodle Type: Standard
Location: Houston
Posts: 8,678
Thanks: 21,717
Thanked 10,556 Times in 5,947 Posts
Default

Let me add natural disasters to those lists of reasons jojogal. Every single shelter was packed after Hurricane Harvey and they didn’t have much room before. The public shelters have done large dogs for small ones exchanges, which I am in favor of, and taken pets from Hurricane Ike. I would be outraged about importing from Korea, because if crates need to be filled to retain a tax exempt status, that can happen locally.
Mfmst is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mfmst For This Useful Post:
jojogal001 (03-11-2019)
Old 03-11-2019, 08:12 AM   #18 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 5,288, Level: 49 Points: 5,288, Level: 49 Points: 5,288, Level: 49
Activity: 72.7% Activity: 72.7% Activity: 72.7%
Last Achievements
 
jojogal001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Names of dogs: Zekefur, Stella
Poodle Type: Mini Sable Parti
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 733
Thanks: 1,178
Thanked 825 Times in 396 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mfmst View Post
Let me add natural disasters to those lists of reasons jojogal. Every single shelter was packed after Hurricane Harvey and they didnít have much room before. The public shelters have done large dogs for small ones exchanges, which I am in favor of, and taken pets from Hurricane Ike. I would be outraged about importing from Korea, because if crates need to be filled to retain a tax exempt status, that can happen locally.


Thank you for pointing out natural disasters! Didnít even think of that. And I agree importing dogs to fill crates is reprehensible. I will no longer be donating to NSAL but will find one close to home. We have one called Little Dog Rescue where all involved are volunteers. At least I know most of it will go towards animal care.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
__________________


52 Weeks of Stella
~~~~~~~~~~~~~And~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Her Breakthroughs in the First 4 Weeks
Do you ever wonder why dog is God spelled backwards?
jojogal001 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jojogal001 For This Useful Post:
Mfmst (03-11-2019)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thank God for the ASPCA Animal Poison Center! peppersb Poodle Health 14 02-05-2017 05:32 PM
40 Standar Poodles taken by ASPCA Nigel Poodle Talk 96 07-21-2010 04:51 PM
Why my poodles' feet don't get cold in the snow... plumcrazy Poodle Talk 1 12-12-2009 07:41 PM
DON'T kill the puppy.... Don't kill the pupp!! WonderPup Poodle Talk 3 04-08-2009 06:00 AM
Why why why... Lelune General Off-Topic Chat 26 10-29-2008 06:11 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:02 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
All (C) PoodleForum.com
PetGuide.com
Basset Hound Forum Doberman Forum Golden Retriever Forum Beagle Forum
Boxer Forum Dog Forum Pit Bull Forum Poodle Forum
Bulldog Forum Fish Forum Havanese Forum Maltese Forum
Cat Forum German Shepherd Forum Labradoodle Forum Yorkie Forum Hedgehog Forum
Chihuahua Forum Retriever Breeds Cichlid Forum Dart Frog Forum Mice Breeder Forum