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Old 03-27-2013, 04:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been looking at collars now and would like to get several new ones for my Angel. I have been really interested in the martingale as it looks like it might do less hair pulling and give great control. SO for those who have tried them, what do you think?

Do you like the cloth only or the cloth and chain, or don't like them at all?

I would like both pros and cons, as I want a good review before I take the plunge.

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I've used a martingale on Matrix since he was about 1 or so. He had a tendency to get over excited and then back out of his collars. I've used both the nylon webbing+chain and the full nylon webbing ones.

What I like:
- No backing out of collar
- Allows of "self correction" if pulling
- No buckles

What I don't like:
- Can be dangerous to leave on unsupervised
- the chain ones pinched his flabby neck skin sometimes
- Wrecked havoc on his neck hair (so we keep his neck shaved now)
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I got a rolled leather martingale for Jazz, because I thought the material would be easier on her coat. It's slightly too large, which means I have much less control than with a standard training collar, so I'd never use it for a long walk, but it's very easy to put on, and I use it for quick trips to get the mail or let her relieve herself. However, as she grows, it should fit better, and I hope to use it more in the future.
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I love them! On Halo I have used them since she was a pup. I started with a chain one but it got caught in her hair all the time so I switched to all cloth/nylon. We do all our obedience classes, SAR work, etc in them.

These days I love a 1.5" width on her and she has several with different patterns. Etsy is my favorite place to collar shop because there is a large variety in the 1.5" width.

It does kill the neck hair some. I keep her neck short now so it's not a problem but she still had a collar on 24/7 when I was showing her UKC (shorter than AKC but still a lot of hair) and it didn't destroy it so much that I couldn't show.

Here's one of her in her Christmas collar.
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We use the cloth/chain ones on Ralph. We like them, only down side is I find them very hard to get on off and adjust.
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I bought a nylon one for Lexi the day after she got scared walking and reared up on her back legs and slipped her collar I had on her. I really like it a lot. The brand is Red Dingo and it looks like this. Click image for larger version

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ID:	42602 I don't leave it on in the house, she only uses it on walks and when we go out and about. She also has the matching leash which is really nice because it has a very padded loop on the end that you can hold onto.
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The martingale is a big favorite of mine. I like the security it provides. I only use it for Chagall for walks. I keep his neck hair pretty short so it's not bothered by any collar. IMO the martingale isn't good for when your poodle is going to be playing with other dogs. The loop that hangs down can twist or get stuck in another dog's jaws, causing both dogs panic. It can be tough to get off in a hurry, especially if you use the one without a buckle closure like I do. Still, it is my first choice of collar for walking my poodle. Like any collar, it's important that it is fitted properly.

I especially like the ones made of hemp from earthdog: quality hemp dog collars, dog leashes and other products for your pets They're sturdy, they soften up with wear and they wash well.

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I use harnest on puppies until they are about 8 months then I switch to a collar. The first time I put a regular collar on Sushi he just slipped right out of it in not time! I got a nylon margingale and I really like it. It looks like katbrat's Red Dingo but in black. I will always use martingale now because I like the fact that the dog can't slip out of it.

The only time I put a collar on my dogs is when I go for a walk or when I train with them inside. Aki almost strangled once when her collar got cought on a fence. It took her several extreamly long seconds to start breeding again once I delivered her. I can never leave a collar on a dog since. All owners should know the risks when they decide to leave a collar on a dog :
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Thanks for the pics and the links. I love the idea of hemp, are they soft after use?

This is the one in the picture, that I had loved the look.



I had also been looking
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I know that the measuring is critical, so are you measuring the Exact size of the neck? Angel's is 15.5 inches To get something that goes over her ears, one at a time is 18 at the smallest. So what size would I need? She has her ears and tk very long and I don't want to cut them off. I love her long ears.

All help appreciated. Thanks.

Also how do you use it differently than a regular collar? I don't leave her alone with a collar on. I have a silk buckle one, I would love a silk martingale.
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I love the idea of hemp, are they soft after use?
Yes! They soften up nicely.

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I know that the measuring is critical, so are you measuring the Exact size of the neck? Angel's is 15.5 inches To get something that goes over her ears, one at a time is 18 at the smallest. So what size would I need? She has her ears and tk very long and I don't want to cut them off. I love her long ears.

Also how do you use it differently than a regular collar? I don't leave her alone with a collar on.
How to use one...
Dog Training Collars & Harnesses : Fitting a Martingale Dog Collar - YouTube

Easy step-by-step measuring directions here:

How to Size a Martingale Training Collar | eHow.com

I also copied this from 2 Hounds Design--they have some beautiful things!

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Martingale Collars | Designer Dog Collars |Greyhound Collars | Sighthound Collars
To measure your dog for a Martingale Collar, use a soft tape measure or a piece of string and take the measurements at point A, B, and C in the drawing below. Choose the size that fits within this range to ensure that your collar fits perfectly.

For Sighthounds, the measurement at points A and B may be the same or very similar, this is because their heads are often the same size or smaller than their necks. For non-sighthounds, these measurements will be different and you will need to choose a collar size that is large enough to slip over the head (point A) but not too large to fit correctly at point B.

In other words, choose the smallest size that will still fit your dog. If your dog has a 15 inch neck, choose the Medium, which is adjustable from 13-18 inches rather than the Large, which is adjustable from 15-20 inches.
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