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Old 09-11-2009, 02:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I believe most countries save for America/Canada, now split the breed into American and Japanese

"The Japanese Akita and American Akita began to diverge in type through the middle and later part of the 20th century with the Japanese Akita fanciers focusing on restoring the breed as a work of Japanese art and American Akita fanciers selecting for the larger, heavier-boned dogs that emerged from the post-war times. Both types derive from a common ancestry, but marked differences can be observed between the two. First, while American Akitas are acceptable in all colors, Japanese Akitas are only permitted to be red, fawn, sesame, white, or brindle. Additionally, American Akitas may be pinto and/or have black masks, unlike Japanese Akitas.

Much debate occurs among Akita fanciers of both types whether there are or should be two breeds of Akita. To date, The AKC and CKC, guided by their national breed clubs, consider American and Japanese Akitas to be two types of the same breed, allowing free breeding between the two. The FCI and Kennel Clubs most other nations consider Japanese and American Akitas as separate breeds."

- from Wikipedia
Thanks for clearifying that
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Poodles are very adaptable dogs, mine get along with every foster that comes though the door, its the other dogs I have to watch.

Why are you bent on getting a Poodle and another dog? Why not just get a Poodle to start?

Any breeder who says they have bred the instinct out is someone I would not by a dog from!
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Well I used to voulenteer at a shelter, so Id like to foster or ultimatly adopt a dog from a shelter at some point
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but obviously If Im getting a purebred poodle, the adopted dog needs to get along with him
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What about a boder collie? Some breeders claim to have bred the herding instinct out. My friend Matt has two collies and they are fine with dogs and other children running around. They got them from a shelter so they could be mutts but they dont look like mutts. Idk if the collies before the shelter were from one of those breeders or if it was taught out of them.

But... to my knowledge you cant teach an instinct away can you?

Im not saying I will get a collie, Im just curious how well poodles would get along with the dog breeds I am used to.
I don't know about instinct and drive, but there is no way your average Show Border Collie could herd! I get a sick feeling in my stomach when I see what they've done to them. I change the channel when I'm watching dog shows. I see working BCs all the time and they are nowhere near that square or small. There was a lot of resistance towards BCs becoming an AKC breed for this exact reason. I agree, I would stay away form most breeders that want to change their breed.
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Raiko-after my experience with a German Shepherd (now 2.5yrs) and 2 mini poos (1 yr and the other 5 mos), I would advise you to choose your favorite breed for now and go with that...all dogs take much time and training....my Shepherd has been in training since she came to us 4 mos.-she is now getting really good...but I will not leave all 3 dogs out together without supervision. The older poodle is very timid, sesitive and rather nervous-so the Shepherd gets more excited around him. Ironically, the younger poodle gets a better reaction from the GSD because he is more assertive and confident. So-you just never know how they will get along-the GSD is female and the poos both male.
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Yeah, Id be getting a poodle this summer and probably not adopt for a while after that, after reading what u guys had to say
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Congratulations! You will LOVE the poodle-they make you feel like a Master Trainer they learn so quickly and you don't have to struggle with them so much-at least, that has been my experience. Aslo I think better for a novice dog owner even if you decide on a Standard.
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I was watching a dog show once, and they took a champion komodor, a dog that's basically been inside due to all the work it takes to grow his locks, to a flock of sheep. Without ever seeing a sheep or herding, he herded them and kept them in a neat little tight flock.

So I don't think instinct can be bred out of a dog that's bred to do something.
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okay. thanks guys
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