I've had more than my fair share of escape artists of different varieties. I'm not going to get into what's possible. I've seen dogs do things that I would have never thought possible. I will say if she's a high flyer then you won't ever be able to truly trust her to stay behind a fence. You can train until your legs fall off however if something motivates her more on the other side... alleee-ooop! You must be super careful about putting a wire up top due to safety reasons. If she's managing to jump or spring board off of something to go that high (I speak from experience as I've had a dog who used other dogs OR ME to springboard off of). Hooking a foot in the wire could be a mess for her. So you could put the dealies up there that lean in but make certain you put something solid threated through there so she can see there's a lid on the box (so to speak). Often times this will do the trick.
If she's doing any scaling, climbing then you can simply put something slick at the level of where she tries to hook in & she will sliiiiiiide & it'll stop her from it once she is corrected by sliding each time. A climber works best with electric fence. Because they're not moving with tremendous momentum like they do when they jump or springboard.
If I got to have my dream fence it would be solid block wall on a poured concrete footing, perhaps 4-5 feet tall with some sort of decorative rail on top. This prevents my dogs from sounding off on my neighbors' business but it also prevents my neighbors from teasing/harassing my dogs... which sadly has happened. The worst of these is the person who thinks they are a master in training dogs & their behavior when in fact... ugh... just no. This dream fence of mine is among the safest but it's quite pricey
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I wish that my spoo were friendly with all dogs, as occasional day care would give him some play time that his 11 year old ‘sister’ can’t provide. Last evening was typical . . they played chase while I did yard work, but it was short lived as my older dog doesn’t have the energy of my spoo. Arranging doggie playdates has proved too difficult for me with work, etc. 😉
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Wow major jump..I only have a 4 ft no dig garden fence across my backyard. The rest is a stockade 6 ft fence. I am lucky the none of my dogs has scaled a fence but then again they are never outside unsupervised so that could be reason. We have covenants and I can only put a 4 ft picket fence along my backyard. The rest 6 ft is allowable. I have no clue what would work. I have used doggy daycare in the past for my terrier, it was good until she kept getting kennel cough. They were strict about shots but apparently a new strain came in that year and we stopped going. It was a nice time for her. I kinda wish I did it with my poodle I think he would be better socialized from it. I think its a nice break for them occasionally as opposed to sitting home alone all day everyday. But we all do what works for ourselves, dogs are creatures of habit.
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Loni's, I could understand your concern for sure!! I think I would get a tall fence that is wood (cant see through) and do the "No mans land" like "rose n Poos" suggested!!! If my Norman was a jumper, I would do anything to make him safe. I know Lowes or Home Depot have lots of fencing options that are (to me) aesthetically pleasing.
For the daycare, I wish I could send Norman to one every once in a while! There is a great one here in town but it has a very very long waiting list. They are so great that they are building another facility!! I think if your dog enjoys going, send them! Some dogs thrive in large pack sizes! Some people do not believe in daycare, and that is understandable! :-) Everyone's lifestyle, like you said, is different! Daycare would be perfect for ours but since it is booked, we make it work without!! (lots of puzzle games LOL!) If your pupper likes daycare, send her! Making our dogs happy should be our top priority, if not why do we have them??
Maybe ask if you can get a video of the jump? (If they have cameras) This could help you see if she might have used anything for leverage or if shes just that good!!! Also if they do not have cameras and if they happen to separate her again to let her rest, ask them to record on their phones and see what happens! They may have a faulty fence system going on and need to rethink it !! :-)
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Just remember any time you think something's impossible... that's what everyone said before they saw it the first time.
A friend reminded me that you can also put something along the top of the fence that moves. Scary eye balloons come to mind due to the fact that they're used to spook off birds of prey but that might look pretty silly, as if you've a fear of hawks or owls. but if you got something that you could thread above the top of the fence through those lean overs & give it enough room that it could wave in the wind, it might be just enough to deter her because it's always moving in a different manner. I know a few folks that this has worked with their dogs. One used a metallic 4 inch stuff that wasn't really plastic but reminded me of plastic. Another used the stuff you put up for sun screen. They cut it in long strips & hung it at the top & at the bottom of that lean in thingy. For the dog they look at this & it changes their perception of if it's safe to go over.
Another very crafty elderly woman with a Siberian Huskey who could jump, climb, & scale like it had cleats on its feet, went to Hobby Lobby & got these beautiful tassels. Then she got really pretty clear or frosted Christmas lights & she stretched & twisted them around the base of the dealy for the top of the fence (I'm talking about the 3 wire lean in thing). So she had a fence that she explained to the home owners association that she turned the lights on at night not only for safety purposes of her dog but also they provided a nightlight so she could see in her yard. (She had had an intruder hiding in her back yard once who was a prison escapee). So her concerns were valid. The dangly tassels were dark & quite pretty even if they were unusual. The HOA approved the irregularities on the fence & the Huskey remained inside her fence from that point forward.
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LONI'S I seem to have offended you at some level. I apologize.
As to fence jumping I just don't recall much discussion on that as an issue. I don't worry about fence jumping since our dogs have all been taught to respect gates and other sorts of barriers. Even though the poodles could certainly jump the gates they are familiar with they just don't do that, but training to respect fences does sound like something you need to work on.
I've been a regular on the forum for a few years, and I also don't recall this being an issue with poodles. My poodles would never dream of jumping a gate, even a small one. Just naturally, mine respect boundaries better than other breeds. No training required, at least for my dogs.
it’s very possible I had a male Rottweiler who would leap over 6ft fences like they were nothing no running start or anything. I got him as a rescue his previous family tried everything to stop him from escaping and nothing worked he got picked up by the shelter twice and they told them the third time they would not release him back to them. my neighbors shortly after I rescued him got chickens at night when no one up he would leap over the fence kill a chicken and bring it back over the fence with him and in the morning I would go in my backyard to find a dead chicken we tried everything from kenneling him which didn’t work because my female Rottweiler would break him free. One day we left him in the house so we could go do errands got a call from an animal sheriff that our Rottweiler was leaping back and forth over my fence. Turns out he managed to get a window open break the screen jump out the window into the backyard and then leaped over the fence because he wanted to play with the neighbors Maltese. Thankfully all was well he loved little dogs it just scared the neighbors and they were too scared to go in their backyard with the 140lbs Rottweiler to save their Maltese so they did the only thing they could think of and the Sheriff got a good laugh out of the situation. But during this time I never thought about calling genesis I’m sure there’s plenty of other people in similar situations who didn’t think about calling or capitalizing on the situation.
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The trouble with Guiness records is that only a fraction of statistics are gathered. Not everyone reports their dogs' jumps most likely. I have no doubt there are dogs that can jump a 6 ft. fence or higher. I knew of a dog in Idaho that jumped out of his fenced yard. I think it was a 6' fence. The dog that bit me jumped the 5ft fence in his yard and that was not a large dog at all...maybe the height of my knees or a tad taller. One of our GSDs jumped over our 4.5 ft fence we had in the front yard. That wasn't that tall I guess.(I scolded him harshly and he never did again. That was many years ago) Coyotes, I know for a fact can jump a 6 foot fence or higher.
Wow. That was one difficult Rottweiler. Terrible about the chickens. Glad he liked little dogs. My Dobe liked little dogs too, grew up with them. But he didn't want to go far from my side. True velcro. lol.
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