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Old 10-05-2015, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have to blow off some frustration here....

Piper, my spoo, I have had for 10 weeks (she is 20 weeks old now).....I am VERY diligent about taking her out for her pottys....we go out every 1-2 hrs....we never have the run of the house, and must stay in whatever room I am in during the day by using gates....and so she is never out of my sight, unless I have to leave or do something where I can't watch her, then she goes into her crate. Plus, at night she is in her 42" crate in our bedroom and does very well.

O.k.....the frustration :

Today I was cleaning the house ( and she had been outside just before I started) and I had to go downstairs to our family room to clean...she won't come down those stairs and I have never taught her how to...she does go down all the other stairs outside. I figured..."no big deal".
So I hear her upstairs tearing around the house "pouncing" on all the other dogs, running like crazy...so I go upstairs to put her in her crate...and she had peed on the living room rug..............Uuuggg!
I put her back outside, and blotted up the pee and soaked it with a urine/stain blocker.

She hasn't had an accident in a month, and the first time I trust her, she pees.

How long did it take you all for your spoos to be trusted out of your site? At what age were they when they could be trusted?
Even at night when I want to watch a program, she wants to run around...I admit that having more dogs around make it harder to control her as while they are older, she wants to play and run around...to their dismay, so she had to be in a crate next to me with a bully stick....

Frustration...frustration....
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I learned the hard way, I only trust Beatrice, yeah she's a tpoo. now that she is 18 months old and never let her out unless supervised before that.
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Maybe she needs more outside exercise as far as the running and pouncing in the house? 20 weeks is still young, but if she suddenly starts having accidents when formerly she was not, I would take her to the vet because it may be signs of an illness.
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Javelin is 20 weeks also and he understand that he is supposed to go outside, but has occasional fails, mostly pee and mostly on us not him. His potty sign is to sit by the side door. He doesn't bark though and if you miss him sitting there he will go pee on the tiles by the front door.

If we don't supervise his outdoor time he can't be relied on to go unless his need is urgent. If the other dogs are out with him he gets involved in playing with them and seems to forget why he was sent out. He will come back in and end up going in the house because now he really has urgency. Again I think that is our fail.

When no one is home he is confined in the kitchen so he has plenty of room to soil inside if he wants to without having to sit in the consequences of having done so. He lasts about 4-5 hours with no problems under those conditions.
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Thank you for your input....I actually made a "flirt pole" using one of my old horse lunging whips with a stuffed animal on the end.....the pole is fiberglass and works great, so every afternoon she and I go out and play with it...she loves it! But after 5-10 minutes, she gets tired of it....so I think she gets a good amount of exercise....I wonder if you think it could be that she gets so wound up with the other dogs, that she just isn't thinking....hmmm...dunno.
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Thank you for your input....I actually made a "flirt pole" using one of my old horse lunging whips with a stuffed animal on the end.....the pole is fiberglass and works great, so every afternoon she and I go out and play with it...she loves it! But after 5-10 minutes, she gets tired of it....so I think she gets a good amount of exercise....I wonder if you think it could be that she gets so wound up with the other dogs, that she just isn't thinking....hmmm...dunno.

With Javelin that is precisely what happens!
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I trust Jasper (17 weeks) out of sight only because he's never had to hold it for longer than 3 hours at a time because there's almost always someone home to let them out. They only have to hold it one day a week when i'm in class for 3 hours, otherwise they go out every 1.5 hours.

My Piper (who is not pure poodle and inherited a wee bit of the lab brain) is not even slightly reliable at 13 weeks. it's partially because she had bunch of intestinal/uti issues, but even with that cleared up I'm starting to think she's going to be a dog I don't trust out of sight. Despite having never been scolded or spoken harshly to for having accidents she'll still sneak away and pee/poo. usually she'll try to poo right after we've come back inside :/

I think a flirt pole sounds like a great idea. I also use a little laser pointer and that puppies go nuts trying to catch it. Good for wearing them out!
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Not physically able to be mistake free til after 5 months no matter how smart they are or how hard you work. I have found this to be true with every dog i have ever had.
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SAS you are right. Around 5 months is when their control over the appropriate sphincters kicks in for real. I think younger than that your success comes from getting them out the door at the right times as much as them trying to understand what is right.
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Lucky for me both of my boys were a breeze to house train (tpoo and spoo).

Atticus potty trained SO quickly. I think because he is my little shadow and he was always sleeping on me or following me around the house. I was only 16 when I got him and he was MY first dog...not a "family" dog. So all the training was on me and my dad warned me if I wasn't able to fully potty train him/if he constantly pottys in the house he is going back to the breeder (which I know my dad wouldn't do that...but when your young it kind of scares you to try your hardest ). I can't remember him having many accidents...if anything it was a tiny poop here and there because it was so cold out he couldn't finish his business. I got him in November and I had to potty train a 1.5 pound puppy during winter. I trusted him free roaming the house when he was probably 6-8 months old. But even then he was gated off in the kitchen when not being watched.

Yuki came to me at 17 weeks and seemed to know the concept of going potty outside. The first night I brought him home he didn't have any accidents and when I put him outside he instantly peed. The hardest thing with him was his "nervous pees". When I would leave the kitchen (where he is gated off) he would pace around and pee at the same time leaving zig zags on the tile floor. He eventually outgrew it but it took a couple months. He still doesn't signal when he needs to go out so I take him out pretty often when I am home...but he, along with our other dogs, can hold it for 8 hours. Though they typically only have to for 6 every day unless I get held up at work. He didn't trust him not to potty in the house until about 6-7 months.

I can't trust my boys loose around the house for other reasons. Atticus likes to raid garbage cans, and Yuki likes to eat EVERYTHING (garbage, paper, kleenex, socks, underwear, crayons, pens, pencils...you name it he'll eat it). I have to run through the house multiple times a day to make sure all doors are closed and my nieces craft supplies are picked up before I let them loose.
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