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Old 09-04-2019, 06:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Woohoo, the Diamond grain free beef food worked!!!! And it looks like they arent on the list of named possible DCM linked foods (although still high in legumes?)

Best stool quality in Annie's life, and amazingy unsmelly. Even the yorkie isnt doing as much walking poops. I will go buy a big bag, and keep them on that for 1 or 2 big bags worth before experimenting again to find one with less legumes and fussing about DCM again.
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I order Victor through Amazon. I like it because it has no peas for protein. (the formula I use...I think some do) Too much pea, legume or pulses is what appears to be associated with DCM, but of course, nothing is 100% clear yet.

I like it for the ingredients after a lot of study on what dogs need. Lots of protein from meat for one thing. Someone had said they don't use a nutritionist to formulate their foods. So I called them and asked. And they DO use a nutritionist to create their formulas. I like how their poops come out...kind of like when I fed raw...firm, dark and few. They're utilizing a lot of what they eat. I like the supplements such as taurine, L Carnitine, selenium yeast and others.

I don't care a whole lot if a food has grain in it or not. But I don't think they need it. And what I've learned from reading about archaeologist findings is that before grain was introduced in the agricultural era, (as opposed to the hunter-gatherer era) humans and dogs showed no signs of tooth decay and arthritis. I believe that grain or too much of it may cause some of the inflammatory issues. So, if a food has a little grain, I might feed it sometimes. But I prefer foods without or with just a little, such as I think the formula I use has...it has some millet and alfalfa in it but it's way down on the list. I don't believe that it's the inclusion of grain that prevents DCM. I think it's a coincidence that the absence of grain is coupled with the high use of pea protein instead of meat...meat that has essential amino acids and other properties a carnivore needs that is missing in many dogs foods.

Another thing I like is that I haven't been able to find any recalls on their foods. They're a small, family type company that's been around since the 50's...not some big, huge food conglomerate. (ie: Nestle corporation) I lived on Carnation Farm, now owned by Nestle and they now own Purina. Nestle is the biggest food giant in the world. I am under whelmed with their ingredients for the most part.

I don't always feed the same thing. I have switched around. But this is my staple. lol. I also feed Orijen dehydrated food crumpled as a little extra on top or sometimes as their meal. (excellent) They like that. https://www.orijen.ca/foods/dog-food.../regional-red/ Sometimes I put in a wee bit of Merrick canned. (the ones that say 96% protein from beef or chicken or whatever the meat is) Not peas!

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check into Carna4 made in Canada
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Thanks for the suggestion, I am always happy to look into Canadian food, as I suspect the inspection is better. Unfortunately, I was VERY unimpressed with Carna4.

I didn't look at their chicken or fish formulas, due to Annie's sensitivities, but their "Grain free" duck formula is not grain free!!!! It lists barley, a gluten-containing grain (which I cannot tolerate), as its 4th ingredient.

I struggle to trust a pet food manufacturer that doesn't even know the definition of grain free, and that advertises using the deceptive, and personally offensive term "low gluten"( I have personally gotten quite sick a number of times because someone fed something to me claiming it was gluten free, only to discover it actually is listed as "low gluten" which means absolutely nothing and is not regulated at all!). I know I am not eating it, but I think that term needs to disappear from common conciousness. A food is either gluten free or not (< a certain parts per million gluten), there is no "low gluten" about it.

The Yorkie hasn't done well on the diamond beef(itchy and licking herself), so I am considering trying the Canadian made, and quite reputable Go brand for our next bag. Either their oatmeal and quinoa or grain free formula duck food. I had no idea until recently they made an oatmeal and quinoa food.

Apologies for the emotion in this one, but falsely labeled things that can get me sick make me VERY mad, especially when done by companies that are theoretically professionals!

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thanks good to know.. hope you find something that works for your pups
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