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Default The dangers of grain-free diets for dogs

I will swtich my food when my bag is empty. Dilated cardiomyopathy is associated with grain free diets, even in breeds that not are predisposed to it. This study came out in december 2018.

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I have read, studied a lot about this issue and switched Poppy a little over 2 months ago. I went with Purina Pro Plan Sport and she LOVES IT!

I tried transitioning her slowly but she spit out her old food and ate only the Purina so after a couple of days of cleaning up all the spit out food I just gave her the new food. She did just fine with the change.

Another bonus is that this food is a lot less expensive than her previous food.

I wish you well with your change and hope it goes smoothly.

Cathy and Poppy
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I have read, studied a lot about this issue and switched Poppy a little over 2 months ago. I went with Purina Pro Plan Sport and she LOVES IT!

I tried transitioning her slowly but she spit out her old food and ate only the Purina so after a couple of days of cleaning up all the spit out food I just gave her the new food. She did just fine with the change.

Another bonus is that this food is a lot less expensive than her previous food.

I wish you well with your change and hope it goes smoothly.

Cathy and Poppy
Iím glad it went well for you and Poppy ! I just have to find a food for sensitive stomachs with grains. I hope they make them.
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The FDA update as of Feb........https://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary.../ucm616279.htm
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Thanks Molly.

This is more complex than it looks. Any diet can be responsible for DCM, even home cooked. The FDA has no idea yet what causes it.

Here is an important paragraph from Molly’s article :

It’s important to note that the reports include dogs that have eaten grain-free and grain containing foods, and also include vegetarian or vegan formulations. They also include all forms of diets: kibble, canned, raw and home-cooked. This is why we do not think these cases can be explained simply by whether or not they contain grains, or by brand or manufacturer.

To put this issue into proper context, the American Veterinary Medical Association estimates that there are 77 million pet dogs in the United States. As of November 30, 2018, the FDA has received reports about 325 dogs diagnosed with DCM suspected to be linked to diet. Tens of millions of dogs have been eating dog food without developing DCM. If you are concerned about the diet you are currently feeding your dog, FDA recommends consulting with your veterinarian or a veterinary nutritionist to discuss the best and safest diet for your dog.
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Iím glad it went well for you and Poppy ! I just have to find a food for sensitive stomachs with grains. I hope they make them.
They do, Dechi! This is what Maizie's breeder feeds: https://www.proplan.com/dogs/product...n-rice-formula
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Iím glad it went well for you and Poppy ! I just have to find a food for sensitive stomachs with grains. I hope they make them.
Purina Pro Plan makes one for sensitive skin and stomachs and it is salmon based. I have heard of a lot of good results on that one. Royal Canin also makes some nice varieties for sensitive stomachs.

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They do, Dechi! This is what Maizie's breeder feeds: https://www.proplan.com/dogs/product...n-rice-formula
Yup! That's the one I hear such good things about!
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They do, Dechi! This is what Maizie's breeder feeds: https://www.proplan.com/dogs/product...n-rice-formula
Thanks ! Beckie and Merlin already est salmon so this would be nice. And there doesnít seem to be any potatoes or legumes in it, which is what I want.

I know my store has it so Iíll call tomorrow to see if they have any samples.
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Hi Dechi, did you put Beckie & Merlin on Pro plan Salmon, do they like it,

How long did it take your dogs to accept the new food
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