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Old 06-20-2011, 07:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dollie has been eating Nature’s Variety Raw Lamb since November 2010. She’s done really, really well on it but I would like to add RMB to give her the added tactile benefit of exercising her teeth. Everything I’ve read discusses how to go from kibble to raw but I haven’t seen anything on how to go from 100% processed raw to adding RMB into her already raw diet. Most of what I’ve read says to start with chicken and gradually add to that.

Should I start with chicken? Or should I start with lamb? And if I start with chicken, when I cut the back out of the chicken I eat (I eat organic), can I just give that to her without freezing first? How often should I supplement RMB into her diet?

I’m considering gradually going away from Nature’s Variety to my own Prey Model but I’m a little intimidated. Should I do it really slow like recommended from going from kibble to raw or can I do it faster?

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Good decision

I would start with Chicken. And do exactly as you thought with the backs.

The only meat I am aware of that people throw caution at is pork. Now pacific salmon, does need to be frozen prior to eating, all others are fine.

If its just for dental, I would look at feeding some nice solid bones once or twice a week. And I would just eliminate the regular scheduled meal.

I keep forgeting about pigs feet......they are an excellent bone choice for dental benefit and a nice snack, light meal. Pork shoulder, shank are nice bones too.

My introduction of bones went like this: poulty, pork, beef, lamb & fish.

I always read if your going to switch to full on Raw just do it all at once. I did.
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I have been feeding Russell Prey model raw for nearly 2 months. I agree with Olie, I just did the switch. I feed an organic chicken carcass (Back & ribs, with most of the meat removed for human) in the morning, he gets a lamb, beef or pork rib for lunch and 1/2 lb ground meat for dinner. I also dehydrate beef liver and kidney and he gets those for treats throughout the day. It's been great so far! Russell is 7 months and 65 lbs, so I'm feeding about 2 lbs a day.
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Thanks Olie! If I feed bones once or twice a week, how long do you think I should stay at chicken before moving on to something different?

And PoodlePowerBC - thanks for the input! Russell is a big, lucky boy! How do you dehydrate your organ meats? Do you do this in the oven on low?
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Sure PD, because you are only doing it once are twice a week, I would start with the poultry and if all goes ok, go ahead and move into your other proteins.
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I have a question about the pig feet. I thought no load bearing bones because they might crack or break teeth. I have been feeding turkey necks, chicken wings and back, pork neck for my toy with some liver does that sound appropriate? Are pig's feet OK?
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CT - yes to both, what you are feeding is fine and so are the pig feet. IDK when you started, just be careful if you are in the early stages with feeding too much liver. If your dog is doing fine with it - keep doing it.
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I have a large smoker/dehydrator that I use, but the oven on low would work. It takes me approx 5 hours at around 250, leave overnight then another 1 to 2 hours at about 175 to thoroughly dry. As Ollie says, too much organ can cause diarrhea, so give sparingly. But honestly, just a crumble is like magic in training I Used to give a "complete" ground meal for the evening meal, but I have switched to just meat and bones. BTW ... Stunning photo of the Princess!!!
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I started feeding bones to my mini twice a week since he was maybe 14 weeks old. I started with chicken necks and wings and then moved to turkey necks and then to oxtails and recently I added lamb and fish. I feed Nickel the same protein source two or three weeks and then I introduce a new one. Now I feed him bones 3-4 times a week and we can go back and forth between different proteins without any problem.

Other times I feed him ground raw (beef/lamb/turkey, grain free) made by a local natural pet food store Jeffrey's Natural Pet Foods I switch flavor every two or three weeks. They already have organ meat in there so I don't have to worry about that. I just throw in a raw egg, yogurt or some cottage cheese here and there.

One day when we move to a house, he will get his own freezer and eat his meal outside - no more ground raw.
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i feel like such an idiot when i read the bantering back and forth about raw because you are all so knowledgeable. chocolate millie recommended some books to me and i've been reading (as often as possible) about raw and why to feed raw. i guess i just can't wrap my brain around it, yet. i am feeding jessie nature's variety instinct chicken formula and i mix cooked chicken breast in it and sometimes EVO 95% chicken & turkey, canned. she is such a BAD eater. sometimes she goes to her bowl, other times she couldn't care less. when i give her the raw and she doesn't eat before i go to work, i have to depend on my mom to put the food down and pick it up so that the raw doesn't go bad.

i'm at wits end. reason i'm contemplating raw is because of her awful stomach. she's still regurgitating water for no apparent reason. i've been giving her pepcid and then she's fine. there is some sort of sick cycle going on with her and my husband blames me because i changed her food. i can't get him to understand that i changed her food because of her bad stomach. i'm so frustrated. i really don't know where to turn, medically. other than the regurgitating she seems fine: energetic, happy, playful, etc.

i don't know how to go about this raw thing. haven't gotten to that point in the book that actually explains it. then i come across this and you guys make it sound SO easy!! i'm thinking maybe i AM the cause of her problems and i'm the nutty one.

sorry for venting - didn't mean to highjack the thread into something else. just really feel frustrated. thanks, guys...
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