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Old 06-12-2019, 02:03 PM   #581 (permalink)
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How do you make your tiny chicken treats? Maybe if I cooked some treats for Noelle she would forgive me. I still feel terrible.
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Stop feeling terrible! If you stop feeling terrible and relax Noelle will probably relax too. Do you know my chicken (or any other ground meat) brownie recipe? 1 lb ground meat of your choice, 1 egg and sufficient bread bread crumbs and parmesan cheese (about 50/50) to make a meatloaf consistency, garlic powder if you want. Spread into a non stick sprayed pan like brownie batter and bake until the edges pull away. You can cut them super tiny if you want or make them more like a jack pot size. You can hold them in your mouth without offending yourself (as I would be if I had to hold liverwurst in my mouth).
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Noelle ate ground beef bits happily today, so we are back on track. Whew!
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My chicken recipe is similar, but uses one of those fat saving silicone trays with dimples as a mould. Liquidise around 200g/8oz chicken breast, one egg, 50g/2oz flour, add enough water to make it the consistency of thick cream. Spoon over the dimpled side of the tray and work into the holes with a knife or spatula. Bake for 15-20 minutes at around 160C/320F/gas mark 3 until risen and golden, then tip out into a tray and return to a low oven until very crisp and dry. Makes hundreds, at around 1kcal per treat.
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Noelle ate ground beef bits happily today, so we are back on track. Whew!
I'm glad she still trusts your treats!

I was meditating on Noelle's pill dilemma and wondered if you tried a two-treat method I just came up with. You could train it like a trick.

The goal is to hide the pill in something tempting (at least medium-value) that she must eat to earn the high-value treat.

Put the treat on a dish you only use for this new "trick" so she must choose to eat it to get the wonderful treat, that you show to her. The pill is NEVER in the high-value treat.

Start without the pill, using medium- and high-value treats, and continue to occasionally do this "trick" with no pills.

I'll be interested to hear if this works, or whether she has your number.
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She would have my number in a nanosecond. I'm better off covering pills in butter and cramming them down her throat.

Right now I am making chicken brownies. I have no doubt Noelle will gobble them up. She ate lots of ground beef bits while we worked on scent articles.
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She would have my number in a nanosecond. I'm better off covering pills in butter and cramming them down her throat.

Right now I am making chicken brownies. I have no doubt Noelle will gobble them up. She ate lots of ground beef bits while we worked on scent articles.



How exciting! How are you teaching it?
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I scented my hands with a few drops of vanilla extract, waited for the vanilla to almost dry in my hands, and then rubbed one of the dumbbells pretty throughly. Then I offered Noelle a chance to sniff a paper towel with a drop of vanilla extract on it, click, treat. Repeated that a few times.

Sniff the scented dumbbell. C/T
Sniff the dumbbell on the floor. C/T
Pick up the dumbbell. C/T
Add unscented dumbbell and... wait to see what happened next.
Noelle nuzzled the new one, returned to the scented one, and brought it to me, C/T jackpot.

Add another dumbbell to the game. Wait for retrieve of scented dumbbell. C/T.
And another dumbbell.
Add all.

Say nothing. Do nothing. Stand still and wait with finger on clicker trigger. Noelle snorted her way through all the dumbbells, and found the right one. CLICK and jackpot.

The concept of snorkeling through dumbbells seeking a scent is a fun game. Noelle's tail almost wagged off. Next time, to prevent boredom, I will set a timer for 1:30 seconds and see how many successful finds we can get in a minute and a half. My only criteria for a click is lifting the right dumbbell off the floor. No need for a formal retrieve, or the send, or perfect delivery to me. That can come later. We're building a puzzle and I'm only paying attention to a few edge pieces.

By scenting my hands with vanilla extract first, it gave Noelle a clue that the game was not fetch the nearest dumbbell. Instead, it's find the right dumbbell with your nose. And she's good at it! Over the next several weeks, I'll use less vanilla extract and more of my own scent. And I'll fade out the single/double/triple dumbbell practice once I know she understands the game.

I like training one criteria at a time. Find the right one is challenging enough. I put the dumbbells in a clock pattern, moving the scented one around to different places. I couldn't fool Noelle. I tried, but she just laughed.
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I scented my hands with a few drops of vanilla extract, waited for the vanilla to almost dry in my hands, and then rubbed one of the dumbbells pretty throughly. Then I offered Noelle a chance to sniff a paper towel with a drop of vanilla extract on it, click, treat. Repeated that a few times.

Sniff the scented dumbbell. C/T
Sniff the dumbbell on the floor. C/T
Pick up the dumbbell. C/T
Add unscented dumbbell and... wait to see what happened next.
Noelle nuzzled the new one, returned to the scented one, and brought it to me, C/T jackpot.

Add another dumbbell to the game. Wait for retrieve of scented dumbbell. C/T.
And another dumbbell.
Add all.

Say nothing. Do nothing. Stand still and wait with finger on clicker trigger. Noelle snorted her way through all the dumbbells, and found the right one. CLICK and jackpot.

The concept of snorkeling through dumbbells seeking a scent is a fun game. Noelle's tail almost wagged off. Next time, to prevent boredom, I will set a timer for 1:30 seconds and see how many successful finds we can get in a minute and a half. My only criteria for a click is lifting the right dumbbell off the floor. No need for a formal retrieve, or the send, or perfect delivery to me. That can come later. We're building a puzzle and I'm only paying attention to a few edge pieces.

By scenting my hands with vanilla extract first, it gave Noelle a clue that the game was not fetch the nearest dumbbell. Instead, it's find the right dumbbell with your nose. And she's good at it! Over the next several weeks, I'll use less vanilla extract and more of my own scent. And I'll fade out the single/double/triple dumbbell practice once I know she understands the game.

I like training one criteria at a time. Find the right one is challenging enough. I put the dumbbells in a clock pattern, moving the scented one around to different places. I couldn't fool Noelle. I tried, but she just laughed.
Wow, I’m so impressed. Are you allowed to scent yourself with vanilla before entering the ring? Or are you going to switch to your hand scent at some point? I haven’t start training scent articles yet.
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Nope you are only supposed to use your natural scent on articles in trials! Lots of people sort of cheat this though. They will rub stuff on their hands before they take their utility routines. The real purpose of the exercise is to find the thing that is different from the others (actually what they are looking for is hot scent. People who don't really understand how much more highly developed a dog's olfaction is than ours often tend to make the scent on the articles too hot and that is off putting to many dogs. Lily for one would not pick up an overscented article but would indicate it repeatedly and recheck the pile until she thought enough scent had dispersed to not mind picking up the correct article, not an NQ but lots of points.



Click if I were you I would not use vanilla. You want her to find your scent. what you are doing is a variation of Janice DeMello's Around the Clock method which is fabulous for teaching the dog to be a purposeful and clear pattern based scent worker. In Janice's method the recommendation is to put squeeze cheese on the bit of the article. For Javelin he found having too much cheese to be a bit confusing so I am just putting a dot of cheese after scenting with my own natural scent.
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