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He has really only been around our dogs at the house and he has seen them at the park and we were very close to one I would let them associate for a few minutes no touching just 6 or 12 inch apart and then I went on gave him a treat and walked away. He had a couple of very low growls and I told him no he went back to looking at the pup and was okay at the moment. I send let's go 2 him and walk to where we were sitting because there was a ball game going on that my niece was playing in. I'm definitely going to check those videos out when I get off work this afternoon. Thank you very much!

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Well, usually a growl like that is on account of fear. And you don't want to tell him "no" or scold him in any way if he growls or reacts because that is merely a communication that he growls. And if he becomes afraid of growling because of being supressed, his behavior will likely escalate and at some point down the road, he may explode and bite and skip the growl. It sounds like you got too close to a dog too soon. So work with him at a distance at which he is not likely to be fearful or reactive. Reinforce the way Kiko pup explains in that video.

His success at getting use to and comfortable with other dogs may be pretty slim because of being isolated from them, like I said during the first 3 or 4 months of his life. This critical socialization period is so important with ALL animals, including us that when it is missed, when the window closes, it's nearly impossible to make a lot of progress...some people get things somewhat better though.

It's a period during development whereby a young animal needs to figure out what is safe and what is dangerous. If he's gotten along all right so far without something, then he pushes that aside as nothing he needs to survive. For instance, if the puppy never sees another dog, he has no use for them later in life because he's survived this long without. Who needs 'em? Another dog is not part of his repertoire of safe things. Dangerous things go in the "box" of things to stay away from and that's what happens to things, dogs, people that the puppy has had no exposure to. Safe things are those things which he uses in day to day life and has had plenty of exposure to. He has those needed things in his life and therefore, they're saved in the "box" of safe things. For instance, in your dog's case, you. Or the lawn or the other dog in your household or the TV blaring and whatever else he's experienced and been exposed to happily since day one. He feels safe with all the things.

At 14-16 weeks of age, this "window" (birth to about 3-4 months) of figuring out safe and dangerous closes so a baby animal can get on with the business of survival and living into adulthood that can reproduce and pass on his survival genes. (instinct) If that weren't the case, you'd have adult deer walking right up to you in the deep forest. So, that's a simplified, nutshell version of the early critical socialization period or sometimes called the sensitive period.

Here is an informative article about socialization from a wonderful behaviorist, Sophia Yin (RIP) who tragically took her own life. She was always my hero...so smart and expert in her field.

https://drsophiayin.com/blog/entry/p...ore-it-starts/

Of course, your dog is an adult so this is especially good to learn about if you ever get another puppy.

But since your dog is an adult, you can try counter conditioning in a positive reinforcement way like described. But if your dog doesn't make much headway and he's uneasy, frightened, defensive (might bite out of fear) you'd be best to leave him in his comfort zone at home and forget taking him to ball games. Those can be pretty noisy and stressful even for relatively well socialized dogs. At his age, I'd give it a try if he were my dog as far as helping him get more comfortable. I'd play it by ear. And if it was too difficult, I'd figure it isn't worth it and let him live out his life in his comfort zone that he's known all this time.
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I'm thinking maybe when he growled the other day it may be because I was there and he could sense my fear of his reaction. I went to pick him up at the groomers this evening and he was playing with other dogs. So that is positive for us. As soo. As he saw me the other dogs became nonexistent.
I'm charging my phone one and can't wait to see the videos posted.

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Oh! How neat that he had such fun at the groomers. Is this his first visit to a groomer or has he seen dogs before in this context? I had the idea he's never seen another dog besides the one he lives with. LOL. Okay, this is really very cool! And encouraging. Happy dance.
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Hes been with the same groomer for a while now, but she moved away and is only doing a certain number of her previous clientele. He was one that gets to keep her! She used to do it out of her own shop, but moved to a vets office twice a week. So he sees more dogs there. I was as excited to see him as he was me. She said before he is always anxious when I leave. My mom dropped him off because he needed updated shots today.
I had her ask them specific questions for me. And they suggested purina one and that it is possibly depression and gove lot of love and attention. They suggested neutering him. But I'm not sure. Is there any benefits to it?

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Awww...it sounds pretty good. No doubt he'll get over his depression, hopefully pretty soon.

There have been oodles of neutering and spay threads discussing the pros and cons. See what you can find doing a forum search for that. I don't see personally, any reason to neuter as long as he's not marking in the house and as long as his behavior is fine. In tact dogs aren't necessarily any more aggressive than neutered and sometimes it's the other way around. I wouldn't rush into it until you do your research. If you let your dog wander though or he gets loose and impregnates a free roaming female who's in heat, that would be irresponsible...there are sooooo many unwanted puppies in this world. So, it depends on your life style too. See what you can find doing a search. And you can even Google pros and cons etc.
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I absolutely agree. I will do a search. Just couldn't see why she'd recommend that. I have no plans on him breeding and hes very good in the house.
He no longer has the freedom he once had, but hes so much happier at my moms I think.
He hasn't left my side once this evening since I picked him up. Hes so attached and such a big baby!

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