I think I'm going to print out some pictures of what I like and take them to my groomer. We FINALLY found a groomer that we like! She is reasonably priced, and knows poodles--she has 2 of her own. It's only taken us over 3 years to find her! LOL! Alot of the groomers we went to were fine, but must not have been too familiar with poodles, because something was always wrong--topknot too short, shaved all over, messed up the tail, etc. I always go to the groomer armed with pictures, and I am very detailed with what I want and don't want, and I was getting frustrated paying over $100 per groom, and walking away unhappy. I just felt like I was paying top dollar for someone to just clipper all the hair off, kwim? I am so happy with our new groomer! Olie--No, Clover is not going through the coat change yet, thank goodness! LOL! I think I worded it wrong, but what I meant to say was that we never really had to deal with a puppy coat before Clover, because when we got our other poodle Cricket, she was already older, and was already going through the coat change. I think I might just get Clover trimmed down a bit, and just have her topknot shaped up a bit, and her rear area shaped up a bit. I don't really think I want her clippered short, just a bit more manageable and tidied up. Thanks for the responses everyone!