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Marcoislandmom · 01-06-2013, 03:05 PM

Karat's next show is the Charleston Kennel Club show at the end of January. She is 10 months old now and still has very sparse neck hair. Can I band on the neck when I do a spray up?

Check the photo for reference.

Ladyscarletthawk · 01-06-2013, 05:09 PM

Your not supposed to band past the occiput, you can get disqualified

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Marcoislandmom · 01-06-2013, 05:17 PM

Thanks. I certainly don't want to be disqualified. Do you know how many elastics I can use for the topknot? I usually use two but could use two more for her flop.

Ladyscarletthawk · 01-06-2013, 07:39 PM

Technically? Like 3 or 4 but realistically more lol.. I think I use like 7 but my girl has quite a bit of coat on her head.

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CharismaticMillie · 01-06-2013, 08:00 PM

Use as many bands as you need but do not band past the occiput. Do remember that bands "eat hair". Put too many bands in and your dog will appear to have less hair when sprayed up than if you went easier on the banding.

pgr8dnlvr · 01-06-2013, 09:23 PM

Man I wish you guys would take video or post photos where all these bands are hidden during "spray up"....

Rebecca

Marcoislandmom · 01-07-2013, 12:30 PM

Bump - Alyone willing to show where all the bands get hidden during spray-up. Seems like I am not the only one who could use some help, help, help.

Thanks in advance so much.

3dogs · 01-07-2013, 02:10 PM

Do you also show UKC? I have a banding question for the UKC & since you have a young dog I thought maybe you would know. When you were showing Karat in the 6 month class did you have enough TK hair for more than 1 band? If you only did 1 band did you just do the band from behind the eyes or did you take all the hair from in front of the ears into a band?

Marcoislandmom · 01-07-2013, 02:29 PM

With Karat, in AKC, we sprayed and gathered her top knot into a single band. In UKC, since there was no spraying, we gathered the center front of the topknot into a single band, separated the area right behind that band into threes. Brushed the center of the second row thirds forward, took the left and right side up behind the center second row into another band. Then I fanned the center (with a teasing comb from Sally Beauty), over everything. I hope what I describe is clear.

Now that her topknot is so long (about 6") I will need to figure out how we get the topknot up. Her next few shows are AKC, so I will have CC thick and thicker and CC spray to help it along. I have access to wiggies, but I really, really do not want to use them if I can avoid it. As a red, Karat's coat is a bit thin but has a lot of curl so I leave the area closest to the skin kinky and thus her hair gains a bit of lift from the roots.

CharismaticMillie · 01-07-2013, 02:36 PM

I took these photos after a show last year. My handler banded him and sprayed him up for the show. After he finished showing, I broke down the hairspray but left the bands in. When I got home, I took photos so that I could repeat the banding process myself the following day.

The banding goes all the way to his occiput. It's not as simple as just wrapping sections in bands. Some sections are split with half of the hair going back into a previous section. The very last section is a "cheater". A section of hair was pulled like you would band a normal section, but then a tiny bit from each side of that section was pulled behind and banded. This gives lift without "eating" hair.

The kink in his hair is from a single band I used to hold the hair in place while I crated him and drove him home.