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SophieGirl · 07-17-2009, 06:27 AM

Hello,
I am needing a little help. I am needing some direction on trimming and clipping my 9 month old female standard. She has a show in a couple of weeks and I trimmed a little but she needs a lot to be done yet and I am scared to touch her really until Someone gives me some info on trimming the show puppy clip. ANy help?

amerique2 · 07-17-2009, 06:46 AM

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SophieGirl · 07-17-2009, 04:23 PM

Yeah, I have seen it.Here are some pics of her right now. Tell me what you think? i know they are not the best stacks, but i live alone so trying to get a perfect one of her standing is kinda hard.maybe someone can do a little brushing on her coat so i would know what to do?

passion4poodles · 07-18-2009, 05:05 PM

Are you showing her AKC or UKC??? If you are showing her AKC, sorry to say and I don not want to be mean, but she will not get any points with that top knot.....it looks as though you clipped it, it needs to be...she looks like a mini, so about 8-10in long by now. If you are showing her in a couple weeks, I would not take her if yoiu are showing AKC. UKC shows accept the Utility clip/sporting clip that is what you would look up online to get an idea of how to groom her or just take her to a groomer, it is a very basic clip and like I said UKC accepts it but AKC does not.

bamsd619 · 07-19-2009, 10:21 PM

Hello:

I want to start off my saying grooming a poodle for show is an art and I have been doing this for 5 years and I am still learning everyday......

Like the other posts, my first question is are you showing in an AKC or UKC show? If you are showing in a UKC show, you will be okay with some scissor work. IF you are showing AKC, unfortunately, you puppy is not in condition for an AKC show. The puppy lacks neck coat and top knot coat which is vital. I would give teh puppy at least 8 weeks of growth and conditioning before showing in AKC conformation events.

I have attached a picture of Skyler, he is just 8 months old in that picture and you can see the type of coat he has. I highly recommend the following:

1. Properly bath and condition the coat once a week. Remember a clean coat, grows coat!

2. Your puppy needs a "shelf" in the rear. I would scissor at a 30 degree angle on the back (top line) and then shape the sizes (rear legs). That would help you create that puppy cut look.

Remember, don"t get discouraged and you are doing GREAT so far!! Keep the great work and you will be there in no time!! :-)

SophieGirl · 07-20-2009, 05:41 AM

Yes, I am showing AKC and she is a standard. I am aware that she has some hair growth to do.I have a handler working with me and he does agrees that she needs some specieal trimming, but there is no one around here to help me. He does not specialize in poodles. It is a little discouraging. Since I have trimmed her up a little in the rear her top looks a lot better and a little longer.

SophieGirl · 07-20-2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by passion4poodles

Are you showing her AKC or UKC??? If you are showing her AKC, sorry to say and I don not want to be mean, but she will not get any points with that top knot.....it looks as though you clipped it, it needs to be...she looks like a mini, so about 8-10in long by now. If you are showing her in a couple weeks, I would not take her if yoiu are showing AKC. UKC shows accept the Utility clip/sporting clip that is what you would look up online to get an idea of how to groom her or just take her to a groomer, it is a very basic clip and like I said UKC accepts it but AKC does not.

She does not have a sport utility clip. Her hair is longer than it looks in the picture. It dried flat when i blow dryd it bc she doesnt like her face blow dryd to it was hard to make it strait. Since I have trimmed her you can see a differance.

SophieGirl · 07-20-2009, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamsd619

Hello:

I want to start off my saying grooming a poodle for show is an art and I have been doing this for 5 years and I am still learning everyday......

Like the other posts, my first question is are you showing in an AKC or UKC show? If you are showing in a UKC show, you will be okay with some scissor work. IF you are showing AKC, unfortunately, you puppy is not in condition for an AKC show. The puppy lacks neck coat and top knot coat which is vital. I would give teh puppy at least 8 weeks of growth and conditioning before showing in AKC conformation events.

I have attached a picture of Skyler, he is just 8 months old in that picture and you can see the type of coat he has. I highly recommend the following:

1. Properly bath and condition the coat once a week. Remember a clean coat, grows coat!

2. Your puppy needs a "shelf" in the rear. I would scissor at a 30 degree angle on the back (top line) and then shape the sizes (rear legs). That would help you create that puppy cut look.

Remember, don"t get discouraged and you are doing GREAT so far!! Keep the great work and you will be there in no time!! :-)

What about switches? or Wiggies? would that work for her topknot? or is that to risky to try for the show?

passion4poodles · 07-20-2009, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SophieGirl

She does not have a sport utility clip. Her hair is longer than it looks in the picture. It dried flat when i blow dryd it bc she doesnt like her face blow dryd to it was hard to make it strait. Since I have trimmed her you can see a differance.

I was not saying she had a sporting clip, I was saying her top knot looked very short and that it would be long enough for a sporting clip for UKC, but since you are showing AKC, you really do need more growth, but taking her in the ring for practice is good.

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Originally Posted by SophieGirl

What about switches? or Wiggies? would that work for her topknot? or is that to risky to try for the show?

These are not allowed in the AKC ring, some use them anyways, but if you are NOT an experianced poodle clip groomer, better not to even try, since you could be excused from the ring, and you are only allowed 3 times to be excused before you can NEVER step into and AKC ring with that dog again, why risk it.

frostfirestandards · 07-20-2009, 07:12 AM

you know that swatches,"wiggies" or any type of extension is illegal right?
its against AKC rules for showing dogs since it is a foriegn substance. That being said alot of people (especially in poodles) break the rules.
you could be caught putting an extention on you r dog, I wouldnt do it.
the judges tend to overlook alot of hairspray or rubberbands, but unless you know how to hide it, I dont think they could overlook an extension