Lou

Help-"hair style"/clip ideas for Lou!! I have some ideas but not sure...

She is now 6 months and a huge ball of fluff heheheh It's ok because it's stoopid-cold here at the moment! haha

I will always keep Lou's face fluffy but, groomers here mess it up by shaving too much around the eyes, giving her the "dark circle under eyes" look.... and also her chin, I like to keep the hair around her nose and chin shorter/no mustache, so she looks girly as you can see on the pictures...HOW CAN I MAKE IT CLEAR TO A GROOMER THAT I WANT HER FACE TO LOOK AS IT DOES ON THE LAST PICTURE I POSTED HERE?(bring the picture? LOL) I also wouldnt want "high rounded hat" on her head...I want her ears to grow... Outside of that... What to do from neck down? LOL she is big (24'' and over 50lbs, when she was 5.5 months old, gotta measure again) so in the summer I don't want her to be too warm. (Hubby has had several spoos and wants her all one length , I dont! LOL-if it means having her legs look real skinny.) I wanted to try long haired legs well-blended into a shorter hair body, and maybe long-hair tail?
I have no clue and dont know if what I picture in my head will look good in real life...

Please post pictures!!!! Thank you sooooooo much! :-)

This is what she looks like now... and how I like her face:

[IMG] Lou loves sticks 01 by Lou Standard Poodle, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG] Lou 6 mo on kitchen floor lookin brownish2 by Lou Standard Poodle, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG] Lou getting big 4 and half months 01 FACE by Lou Standard Poodle, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG] Lou cute 6 months old happy face by Lou Standard Poodle, on Flickr[/IMG]

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[IMG] Lou poser gorgeous girl 8mo by Louthespoo, on Flickr[/IMG] Universal Love...

tokipoke

Tell them you want a teddy head, but if you want more hair on top, you need to tell them the length. Because they will match the head hair to the body hair. Tell them BLENDED topknot so that they don't cut around the ears like a poodle TK. And shorter chin hair. Every groomer does a teddy head a little different so I would be very specific. Do you like any of the Asian inspired trims? For her body, I would just go with 1" all over. I find that a lot of people miss the puppy fluff, and you don't want to go too short. The groomer will use a comb attachment and it will neaten her body hair by cutting the frayed ends of the hair. She will comb back very plush. I figure you do not want the tail band shaved like a poodle, so tell them this if you don't. Tell them no shaved feet. EMPHASIZE NOT TO SHAVE DOWN THE MUZZLE! and not to cut too much around the eyes. Good luck!

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hunny518

Yes definently bring a picture with you! Any reputable groomer would not be offended and it would take care of any misunderstandings. I've been grooming for 11 years now and have gotten really good about how to ask questions and get very specific and always repeat back to the owner what they said to me to clarify that I am understanding exactly what they are asking for. Go in and interview some local groomers. Even bring Lou in with you so they actually can see your dog while you discuss what you want. The biggest thing you want to look for when interviewing a groomer is how many questions they ask you when discussing the cut. And are they making sure they understand what your asking for or are they just agreeing with everything you say. When I discuss a cut with someone I literally lift up the coat with my fingers and slide it up and down the coat to find the specific length the owner is asking for. I won't take a vague answer like "well make it cute" or "don't go too short"..lol I will always say "can you show me with your fingers the length you are wanting" and when they ask specific things like you are, like not to wide around the eyes or don't leave the top of the head too long, then I will zero into those specific spots and use my fingers to pull up the hair and have them show me exactly what they do and don't want me to cut.
Sometimes if you find a groomer who you feel your dog is safe with and is clean with a good reputation, then stick with them and if they don't get it right the first time, don't go somewhere else or wait till your next appointment to let her know that you didn't like something. It won't offend her if you tell her right away to fix something, it will help her adjust her notes so that way the next time you come in she will know exactly what to do and you will end up with the perfect haircut. All groomers have a personal style and no 2 groomers are alike but a good groomer can mold her style to each of her clients personalized taste. :-)


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tokipoke

Here's a thread talking about teddy bear heads and some pics: learning to do a "teddy bear" clip

And also the pics in this thread may help: Poodles that look like Doodles

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Lou

Thank u guys very much!!!! Very good info!
I hope I find a good groomer, that wont think Im a picky horrible customer... Well, maybe when I lived in NYC .... mmm... ya can find anything... Ive been everywhere, I am in central Indiana at the moment... Wish me luck!! :-D
But seriously, last time she came back looking like "big bird" hubby said!! Can u picture the angled muzzle sides and double chin? Hahahaha
I will respond properly to your posts tomorrow, I'm on my phone and I'm horrible at typing on touch screen :-p thanks again

Lou

see??! Here is a picture of what I consider a "grooming mess up"!!

she looks like Big Bird! (husband says!)
I explained with details what I wanted, and showed a picture....
I think she looks like she has "dark circles" under her eyes (shaved too much), like tired look + double chin + weird triangle shaped angle on the sides of muzzle/mouth (beak-like), if you look facing her it looks like its a straight line from the side of her nose to her ears, "not blended" at all...


so compare the pictures... FIRST PICTURE IS the mistake LOL THE LAST PICTURE IS OK I'd like the chin hair to be shorter to give her more of a girly look (no mustache)

Please share your opinion! :-D

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[IMG] Lou poser gorgeous girl 8mo by Louthespoo, on Flickr[/IMG] Universal Love...

kukukachoo

Looks like she has more hair in between her eyes this time than in the last picture. If you shorten the hair between her eyes and on the bridge of her nose it perhaps might not make her eyes look so sunken.

I'm no groomer, but I am imagining that look is hard to accomplish unless the groomer just shears her when she is already matting up and then bathes and brushes her afterwards, KWIM?

I deal with the same thing with my daughters naturally curly hair, actually. I learned in a book about curly hair that in order for ringlets to get clipped correctly, the hair actually needs to be allowed to naturally dry so you can see the actual curl pattern (whereas, most people get their hair cut when wet and poodles get clipped when their hair has been blown/brushed straight). Since you want the curly look, maybe this approach would help your groomer?

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Lou

I have naturally curly hair as well, and what I ask the person that cuts my hair to do is to cut it unevenly , like instead of straight _______ cut it like " ' ,~,~,~,~,' " (kinda using the scissors aiming up instead of sideways.... too hard to explain LOL but all I know is that it's not a straight line hehehehhe :-D

faerie

tell them to do her like a labradoodle? i don't know. i'm a clean face poodle gal.

Lou

LOL I like ALL poodle hair cuts!! but my husband has had like 6 spoos in his lifetime (and his parents) and they all had this "all one length hair" all over their bodies...

I just personally like the teddy bear look too.
But I like her face to look a little more feminine,
instead of having a mustache :-D

I didnt mean to create controversy, I thought it was actually funny...

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