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Old 11-23-2012, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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...are they pretty much always in bands once they get to that point?

i'm oohing and aahing over Rain's gorgeous locks and I'm just wondering what the day-to-day is like with a long topknot such as his.

Dude's TK is now to the point where it could really stand to be clipped out of his eyes, but if I'm ready to commit to growing it, then I need to just deal with this stage until I can band it, right?

Then, once it is long enough, I am assuming it requires banding pretty much all the time?

Do tell! Thanks!
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Yes, once it's "that" long, it will need to be banded all the time, or the dog will be completely unable to see.

I posted this on Sugar's 52 Weeks thread, but since it's pertinent, here's what he looks like with no bands, then with.



There is a very annoying stage where it's barely long enough for bands, and keeps coming out of even devil horns, and little whispies are always sticking out, and you sort of despair...but then it gets so long that you can pop a human hair band on it easily, which I now do a lot.

As far as maintainance, I take down the topknot and carefully brush and comb through it every two or three days, minimum. Right now we seem to be experiencing some coat change issues, so I'm trying to do it more often, and since I'm not working with a show dog here, I'm okay with taking a small slicker to the occasional tangle, which are getting particularly bad on the back of his neck. I use Crown Royale spray on it. Probably once a week I carefully section and band the hair "properly," with tiny bands as in the picture; the rest of the time, it's in a couple of ponytail holders.

It's a bit of a pain, but I really like the look. To me, it's the essence of Poodle-ness. lol

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Yes, once it's "that" long, it will need to be banded all the time, or the dog will be completely unable to see.

I posted this on Sugar's 52 Weeks thread, but since it's pertinent, here's what he looks like with no bands, then with.



There is a very annoying stage where it's barely long enough for bands, and keeps coming out of even devil horns, and little whispies are always sticking out, and you sort of despair...but then it gets so long that you can pop a human hair band on it easily, which I now do a lot.

As far as maintainance, I take down the topknot and carefully brush and comb through it every two or three days, minimum. Right now we seem to be experiencing some coat change issues, so I'm trying to do it more often, and since I'm not working with a show dog here, I'm okay with taking a small slicker to the occasional tangle, which are getting particularly bad on the back of his neck. I use Crown Royale spray on it. Probably once a week I carefully section and band the hair "properly," with tiny bands as in the picture; the rest of the time, it's in a couple of ponytail holders.

It's a bit of a pain, but I really like the look. To me, it's the essence of Poodle-ness. lol

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Thanks so much! I love your photos! I'm going to try and wait it out. We shall see!
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I agree with Quossum, and Rain always has bands to keep the hair out of her eyes.

I would have shaved her TK were it not for my concern about denuding her of all her "wild hairs" (eyebrows, in particular). As it is, we are trying to get them to grow and, hopefully, be functional. These would help Rain manage the heavy underbrush in the places we frequent. I do not know if we will succeed in this experiment.

I have also noticed that Rain seems more sensitive to the sun on her back when I have her clipped short. So, since we are out in the sun a lot, there may be another benefit to leaving a substantial TK ... in lieu of a hat ~~~

Since Rain has completed her coat change, she no longer mats. I comb through the TK about once a day, use puppy (no tear) shampoo about once a week (though she often gets rinsed several times in between baths -- salty, muddy dog), and air dry.

Her hair was a little overwhelming after 30+ years of Weimaraners, but I think we are managing fairly well.

Cutie Pie Rain :

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Yes, once it's "that" long, it will need to be banded all the time, or the dog will be completely unable to see.

I posted this on Sugar's 52 Weeks thread, but since it's pertinent, here's what he looks like with no bands, then with.



There is a very annoying stage where it's barely long enough for bands, and keeps coming out of even devil horns, and little whispies are always sticking out, and you sort of despair...but then it gets so long that you can pop a human hair band on it easily, which I now do a lot.

As far as maintainance, I take down the topknot and carefully brush and comb through it every two or three days, minimum. Right now we seem to be experiencing some coat change issues, so I'm trying to do it more often, and since I'm not working with a show dog here, I'm okay with taking a small slicker to the occasional tangle, which are getting particularly bad on the back of his neck. I use Crown Royale spray on it. Probably once a week I carefully section and band the hair "properly," with tiny bands as in the picture; the rest of the time, it's in a couple of ponytail holders.

It's a bit of a pain, but I really like the look. To me, it's the essence of Poodle-ness. lol

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How long does the very annoying time last?! I am trying to grow out Winston's top knot. It is such a PAIN! It won't stay in the devil horns, but if I don't it is in his eyes and he can't see. Sigh...
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Oh, once it got about three inches above his eyes, I could get it to stay in bands pretty well.

I admire you for growing a topknot! I gave it a good long go, but I eventually took Sugarfoot to a typical rounded poodle head. *sob* I miss the banded topknot so much...but it was a lot of work to keep up and to keep out of his eyes.

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I am having to learn how to band my brownies topknot right now. At the show in November it was not yet long enough to band and look right. Last week he turned 6 months old and his hair banded while I watched his breeder do it.

My question is how do you remove the bands? Phoenix has had his band in since Saturday and I think it is time to re do it...
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Never try to remove the small latex bands. Cut them out. There are even special little scissors with a curved snipper that you can get to do the job more easily.

A lot of people get their bands (and the special scissors) from here.

I have a couple of bags of 1000's--maybe I need to try to grow Sugar's topknot again!

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Thank you that was the one question I forgot to ask his breeder last Saturday. I have tried to remove plain rubber bands from my hair or kids hair umm I know what a mess that can become...
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I just started to band Chagall's TK to try and grow it. He is so good about it, doesn't fuss a bit! I think he may last longer at than I will. I cut the bands off using a little blunted scissor. I love the look of a long TK and "bubble," I just don't know if I have the will to stick with it. The wispy hairs are such an annoyance, thankfully just to me, not him. If I get it going to the point that it's photo-worthy, I'll post some pictures. Otherwise I'll admit defeat and stay mum. (I was really forced to start banding when a poodle friend sent me a giant bag of latex bands in several colors. I have since become way too concerned with what color bands to use!)
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