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Old 02-07-2013, 04:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So after years of struggling with the distaste I have for eating meat and basically avoiding it without labeling myself I became a vegetarian and am now in the process of eliminating dairy and eggs too.

My question is this: I am now struggling with the reality that dogs are omnivores and that meat is the main staple in their diet. How do I justify this? I know they need it and their dog foods main ingredient is meat but yuck. Any input that will help me stop cringing when I think of their food would be much appreciated.


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Same! I've been a vegetarian for years, and I like knowing nothing has to die to nourish me. I don't judge anyone else who eats meat (and in fact I cook it for my family and I would never try to convince them not to eat meat, that's an individual choice for everyone for sure), that's just my little thing when it comes to what I eat. As for my dogs, Orijen has 5 fish formula, and the fish are fresh and wild-caught. Soooo, one could say that is still depleting the ocean but it's an option. My dogs love it and their coats are nice and shiny. I have heard that you can feed dogs on a vegetarian formula but I haven't attempted it...they aren't really meant to eat that way in my opinion being as you mentioned, omnivores.
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I have looked into the vegetarian diet for dogs but agree with you that they are not meant to eat that way. I guess I just have to say that if my dogs were in the wild they would eat meat as they are intended to do. So me feeding them meat is the same thing only they don't have to stalk it or catch it. Lol. I also do not try to change anyone else and my husband and kids eat meat and I really try not to cringe when I am cooking it. Lol.


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I've been vegetarian for about half my life now, started out as vegan (but I believe that is limiting your diet too much) I also feed homemade raw to my dogs. When I first started feeding raw I was repulsed, but knew it was in their best interest. Dogs are made to eat meat, and it is clear in the joy my dogs get while eating. We started raising chickens about 4 years ago too, for eggs. What's really strange, is that after raising chickens, I'm less against eating them than I used to be. They're seriously really stupid animals lol. Don't get me wrong, I love my chickens, they all have names and I could never eat of kill any of them, but I could imagine myself raising meat chickens (and having someone else do the deed) and be okay with it. Meat is a necessary evil, and as much as I would love every animal, plant, and living thing to thrive and live freely it just isn't possible when there is a need for food, so the next best thing is to acquire meat that is fed right, raised right, and killed humanely.
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Kruz is vegetarian after test to find out he has a problem with meat and fish even kangaroo .I have fed raw (meat) for close to twenty years so really had my douts of switching to veg but he is a happy dog now and all his skin and diegestive things are all good and is loving his food big time .But unless you are buying kibbles it does tak so work but when he sees me soaking lentils and beans he starts drooling and the vet is very happy with his progress .
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Kruz is vegetarian after test to find out he has a problem with meat and fish even kangaroo .I have fed raw (meat) for close to twenty years so really had my douts of switching to veg but he is a happy dog now and all his skin and diegestive things are all good and is loving his food big time .But unless you are buying kibbles it does tak so work but when he sees me soaking lentils and beans he starts drooling and the vet is very happy with his progress .
That is so cool! Also brownlikewoah, I know what you mean about the chickens, I feel the same way My parents always had livestock and I'm a darn fast chicken plucker! We always canned our old tough laying hens and beef, it's a different perspective when you're a farmer. But when I moved out on my own, I just felt like I didn't want that anymore. Anyway, I fed my dogs raw for a while too but (and this is my opinion only and I know I'm in the minority) I didn't really see a difference in their health or happiness that warranted the work that went into it. So I'm back to kibble. However, if there was some reason like a health problem that feeding raw would solve, I would do it.
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Kruz is vegetarian after test to find out he has a problem with meat and fish even kangaroo .I have fed raw (meat) for close to twenty years so really had my douts of switching to veg but he is a happy dog now and all his skin and diegestive things are all good and is loving his food big time .But unless you are buying kibbles it does tak so work but when he sees me soaking lentils and beans he starts drooling and the vet is very happy with his progress .
interesting! Glad you guys have worked out a diet for him
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I am not opposed to eating meat, but I will only eat meat that has been "fed right, raised right, and killed humanely." (as brownlikewoah said). I am eating a lot less meat that I used to (and loving those veggies, legumes more than ever), and there is definitely never any factory farmed meat in my house. I found that a lot easier to adopt a no-factory-farmed-meat policy for the people in my house than for the dogs. Seems like everything (kibble, treats, etc.) comes with meat in it.

My solution is to use vegan kibble and add a little properly raised meat to their evening meal.

The kibble: V-dogfood — Welcome

My dogs like it. The company that makes it says it is fully ballanced so I really think that my meat supplements are not necessary. But my dogs really love the meat, so that's what I do.

The meat: I buy directly from farmers and ask them about their practices (most are happy to talk). Fortunately, I live in an area where there are a lot of Saturday farm markets where the farmers themselves sell what they produce. Meat that has been humanely raised costs a bit more, but if you get the cheaper cuts and/or organ meat, it is really not that bad. One of my favorites is beef or bison heart. I feed sometimes raw, sometimes cooked. The meat comes frozen and I always have an assortment in my freezer.

Treats: Very hard to find treats that are both meat free and acceptable to my fussy poodles. Sometimes I make my own. One that they like is Grandma Lucy's blueberry treats, but they are quite small. I'd love to find a good old fashioned milk bone type biscuit that didn't have factory farmed meat in it.

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My question is this: I am now struggling with the reality that dogs are omnivores and that meat is the main staple in their diet. How do I justify this? I know they need it and their dog foods main ingredient is meat but yuck. Any input that will help me stop cringing when I think of their food would be much appreciated.


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I haven't "come to terms" with this myself. I don't happen to think it's a reality. Follow your heart. : ) It also felt very wrong to me to value my personal pet's life and happiness over that of a cow or chicken I never met. Fortunately for my conscious and my critters, research and life experience has led me to believe animals and people don't require specific foodstuffs but specific nutrients. I meet mine and my pet's needs without animal parts or products. I have a dog and two cats that eat homemade meals supplemented with Vegedog and Vegecat, respectively. Lumi's skin and digestion is it's best since we switched (she ate homemade omnivore until she was 8 or 9 months, she's now 1 1/2), and the cats haven't had any noticeable health changes, in apparent good health before and after the change. : ) As for treat ideas, Lumi loves nuts, dried fruit, some fresh fruits and vegetables, crackers and chips, nut butters, pasta, most cooked vegetables like peas, corn, beans, cereal, well, I guess everything! Easy for keeping in pockets or treat jars are nuts, dried fruit, crackers, chips, and cereal. Lumi lives for surprise Cheerios! As far as I can tell, we have lots of options for keeping our pets happy and healthy! Even the kitties love cooked veggies, beans, pasta, chips, crackers, and cereal for treat time!
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I am going to look into vegedog.


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