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Old 12-20-2012, 04:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have purchased most of my grooming items either on very good sale or used. I love a good deal, and I am a seasoned garage sale shopper, thrift stores, etc.
The value of items, for me (and other people may share this view), is the amount which I am willing to pay. Nothing sends me away from a g-sale faster than a person who does not want to negotiate on price because "Well, I paid $X for it!" They paid that because that is what they felt it was worth to them. It is my opinion, that if they do not want it any longer, and if they do not find someone willing to buy, the value is $0 or even less, because the seller is in the negative. It is sort of like buying a new car, paying $20,000+ for it, then driving it off the lot...and now it is not worth what you paid for it, no matter how many times a person says, "But, I paid X amount!"

We just cannot recoup nearly what we paid, but that is what the item was worth to us, not to a person who might purchase it used. While in our hands, after we have bought it new, if we are not or cannot use it, it is not worth $X amount, it is now worth negative $X amount---we are out money, and reducing that negative is far better than bearing the brunt of the full negative.

This is the way I look at items that are being resold and why I search for a much reduced price, not just slightly reduced from the original price. If I cannot afford or would not pay the new price, then I am not going to approach close to the new price....and the seller is still out the whole price. If the item is only slightly reduced, unless it is hard to find, I will just buy it new.

This is just a little food for thought, and there may be other people who think as I do.
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I buy warhammer fantasy miniatures used. It's a really expensive hobby, but generally not worth what the pieces cost new from the store.

I find people buy new, and then decided they don't want to play/paint their models, so they go to flip them expecting to retain like 80% value. It unfortunately doesn't work that way since the market for buying used only purchases at 25-50% value.



Anyways, people will buy these assemble them, and then partly paint them, and then think that they're going to retain value-they just don't since they're mass produced plastic/metal and resin haha. I bought myself an entire army of this stuff a week ago that would have been 2000$ new for 300$ (it's not popular models because they're girly looking).

Another thing I have bought is electronics. People seem to not understand that a laptop has a lifespan generally of 2-4 years (nowadays) before something goes wrong (that is if it's being used as a laptop and not just sitting on a desk nice and safe). Technology is just being replaced so quickly and getting so much cheaper that I see people trying to sell 2 year old machines for slightly less than what they paid, but you can go out and buy a new laptop for the same price and get better technology.

I don't really recommend buying used computers anymore, since you can generally get everything an average user needs for 300-500$.

I did however sell an old macbook air I replaced for 80% new value, which shocked me. It was in great condition but I didn't expect it to go for that much. So if you're going to invest in a laptop, and you like to upgrade frequently I suggest going the mac route, since it seems anyone will pay anything to just get one.

I don't do yard sales much anymore, as like you said everything is stickered and people don't seem to want to part with their stuff for less. I remember the last time I went I saw a 20 gallon fish tank that I was going to pick up for my little brother (you can buy entire new kits for 30-50$) and the woman selling it wouldn't take less than 30.

After Christmas is a really great time to scoop up good deals off of kijiji etc for electronics. People get SLRS and stuff for Christmas, but don't know how to use them, and generally speaking you can usually haggle to 50%.
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I also tend to be a frugal shopper - but if a person will negotiate with me or not is irrelevant to me. If at a garage sale I am quoted a great price and it is what it's worth to me, I buy it, if not I don't even ask - because that generally means we are so far apart on our definitions of worth that it's not worth discussing further. I "need" so few things that I pretty much only buy stuff that I consider a screaming deal
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"It's only worth what someone will pay for it" is exactly how I feel! I am able to live quite well on my SS because of knowing how to spend little while still buying quality! Craigslist furnished my whole apt practically! It helps to be handy with refinishing and being able to sew! I also feel secretly pleased when my friends compliment my home! Knowing where to find bargains is also a lot of fun!
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The reason I don't like to pay much for used items is because you are buying something without a guarantee or warranty, and absolutely no recourse if it doesn't work as well as expected. Like what if the computer was dropped? Or had coffee spilled on it? Or if it does work, sometimes something unexpectedly breaks in a week. So in order to accept those risks, the items must be MUCH more attractively priced than in a store, no matter how new or unused they are. But having said that, I love buying used items; it's fun, you can often get better quality than the newer versions in stores (especially when you're talking about furniture), and you're doing the environment a favour! The more people shop for new items, the more those factories have to built to produce more goods and all that environmental damage is increased...so, recycling, upcycling, garage saling, whatever you want to call it, is a good, healthy thing to do for all involved
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I agree with you that the value of an item is what you are willing to pay for it. That is actually true for any item that will be sold, whether a house, car, clothing. It is only worth what you can get someone else to pay for it.


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It is so nice to know I am not alone.

Funny, bargain-hunters used to be frowned upon long ago. Now, I tell everybody, I used to be called "cheapskate", but now I am environmentally conscious or green. :-) I tell everyone that I repurpose things and keep them from ending up in a landfill.

But, in all truthfulness, saving money and getting great deals can be a real thrill, and is even acknowledged by many to be something that can become addictive. For me, probably the best addiction I can have.........certainly, I can think of worse. And, of course, saving allows us all to have the occasional irrational splurge here and there without feeling too much guilt. :-)

Oh, and in my neighborhood, everyone always wants to know how I make so much when I have a garage sale. No big secret---I don't want to keep the stuff--I want to see it go, so I sell super cheap. In the end, I always end up making way more money and having way less stuff left over. I have friends who cannot park their cars in their garages because they have the garage full of stuff that they were unwilling to sell for much less than they originally paid. LOL
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You know what I've noticed prices have gone up at the used stores...I mean these are USED things!!! I went to what is called a "Value Village" store looking at various things and I was outraged at their prices like for example how can you charge 10.00 for a set of used sheets? What I find is really gross about this store is the fact they don't even wash their clothes/fabrics etc! I recall going to used stores as a child and teenager and the prices being 50 cents to 2 dollars being the highest and I cannot believe what they are asking for USED stuff some things that shouldn't even be sold because they are in no condition to be sold. And as far as yard sales people ask way to much for even the smallest things as a tea cup, they ask 5.00 for a tea cup thinking it's made of gold or something?? On another note my sister saves stuff and tries to sell it on kjjij and isn't selling her stuff and seems to "hoard" her junk...personally if something isn't selling it I would much rather just donate something then have it just clutter my home!!! just my thoughts!!
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Oh Yeah, inflation has hit the second hand stores for sure! When I was breeding birds and needed extra heating pads I used to be able to pay $2.50 but recently I went looking for one for a friend who is handfeeding & they wanted $7.00(new they can be bought for $10!) I also don't pick up much clothing cuz for a few $ more you can usually find stuff on sale racks new. I realize Salvation Army & Goodwill have overhead and have to pay employees but their prices are ridiculous for used donated stuff! Craigslist is my new 'go to' now!
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Yeah....! I understand that they need to pay bills, support charities etc BUT i also need to keep a little cash in my pockets so i can got to all different thrift stores lol their are some charities that are still cheap if you can go to town ones (not city ones) but small town ones! My home town charity store still charges fairly cheap! Their a good old church charity shop and they will even hold stuff for you if you see something you want and its a little dear (nothing over like 50.00) (these are things like furniture) you can get most things for 50 cents to a dollar!!! I love Saint pauls to Vincent! they even help you out if you cannot afford furniture, a stove or fridge! their great people!
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