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Old 08-26-2016, 12:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thank you moderators for starting this forum! I found it, then couldn't find it again, and now have found it again!

Here is my current conundrum with Jupiter, who will, God willing, be 15 in three weeks.

Jupiter is a gentle, mellow soul and always has been. He's very accepting of things, and does not generally protest, but also likes his routine.

He jumped off the bed a few months ago, necessitating a visit to the emergency vet -- I thought he'd broken his front leg.

He hadn't, but it was clear to me that the time for letting him sleep on the bed (which is a low platform bed), even with pillows around it for old dogs rolling off (which the late Hecuba used to do) was over.

So I put a large-ish crate in the bedroom. He didn't like it but he's been sleeping there for a few months. If he's in it, he tends to get a bit agitated at night and I let him out in the yard to pee, then to the kitchen to drink water.

A few days ago I experimented and let him sleep outside the crate. He seemed happy, and slept in several places, including by the door, so I put some of his cushions there. Last night he spent part of the time in his crate with the door open. But he sleeps through the night, or at least, doesn't wake me up. Bliss.

BUT now he wants on the bed. Pericles and I are up there. But I don't dare, and I don't want him jumping up during the night (not sure he could). The problem is, he'd try to jump off. (Jupiter is a nocturnal nomad.)

No crate: danger of getting on the bed.
Crate: he's unhappy and rattles it sometimes during the night.

Any creative solutions?
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Is it possible for him to just not be in the bedroom at night or is that a no go?
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My boy sleeps in a soft crate not so noisy as wire. Sleeping on a futon? You can all share that
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Is it possible for him to just not be in the bedroom at night or is that a no go?
Oh dear, he's always slept in the bedroom, and gone off during the night if I leave the door open. Don't think I could make such a big change now, given his age; and don't trust Pericles loose with Jupiter, as Pericles might want to play which can overwhelm Jupiter when not supervised.

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Yes, the soft crate! Thank you! I have one for Pericles which Jupiter could use. It is nice and big.

As far as a futon goes, it is truly a great idea, and I am sure it would work. Here's the problem: will you come and help me get up in the AM? My arthritic knees would need some help...
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How about some steps for him ? You can buy them at your local pet store. Not expensive and handy.
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Yes, it worked well with steps for a few years. But then Jupiter started jumping off the bed...as he did when he was young. Since that happened while I was asleep, I couldn't monitor it.

I think he was being forgetful. He has fairly major memory lapses frequently, such as forgetting to poo in the yard, getting on the deck, and doing it there...
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I think the soft crate is the best thing to try for now. If it works, great! If he's still really restless and you're not getting enough sleep, perhaps he could sleep in a different room. I know you'd prefer not to do that, but you need your sleep!
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A couple of possible solutions that might or might not work for you:

1. Can you get rid of your platform bed (temporarily) and just put the mattress on the floor?

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2. Put a couple of big orthopedic foam dog beds on the floor next to your side of the bed. When you go to bed, settle Jupiter in on the dog beds, next to you. Try to teach him that this is his place to sleep. If he tries to get on your bed, gently push him off. It might help to have him on a 6 or 8 foot leash that is tied to one corner of the bed on the side that you sleep on. So he couldn't get on the bed without you noticing, and he is pretty much restricted to the dog bed(s) and the area immediately surrounding them.
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2. Put a couple of big orthopedic foam dog beds on the floor next to your side of the bed. When you go to bed, settle Jupiter in on the dog beds, next to you. Try to teach him that this is his place to sleep. If he tries to get on your bed, gently push him off. It might help to have him on a 6 or 8 foot leash that is tied to one corner of the bed on the side that you sleep on. So he couldn't get on the bed without you noticing, and he is pretty much restricted to the dog bed(s) and the area immediately surrounding them.
This is an interesting idea...keep him close, where he wants to be, with a bit of mobility, and where he can't jump without my knowing.

Yet another way that elderly dogs are like puppies!

The bed on the floor worked for me when I was a student, and while the idea of a continuous surface for Jupiter is appealing, I just don't think I could face mornings...it's not a super thick mattress, just 10 inches of latex...

And zooeysmom, you read the subtext. I am definitely sleep deprived. I will do the soft crate tonight before organising dog beds next to the big bed.
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As far as a futon goes, it is truly a great idea, and I am sure it would work. Here's the problem: will you come and help me get up in the AM? My arthritic knees would need some help...
Hee hee it was more of a tongue in cheek suggestion. I couldn't cope with futon and no arthritis here.
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