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07-29-2010, 11:10 AM
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I would forget about this contract. You bought the puppy from a third-party broker, who bought the puppy from a puppy mill breeder. Neither this broker nor the puppy miller is going to give you crap. Seriously. This is what you signed up for when you bought a puppy miller puppy from a broker.
BUT, you still have recourse from your credit card company. You bought a puppy with the expectation that it would not be seriously ill in the hospital within 48 hours of acquiring her. Your "breeder" violated any contract between the two of you when she shipped you a sick puppy. I can guarantee you will never get a dime from the person from whom you purchased Charlie, but your credit card company should agree that this voids your purchase agreement. CALL THEM!
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07-29-2010, 11:11 AM
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It seems that the warranty is for replacement not reimbursement - which I believe is legal (please forgive me it has been forever since I took contracts), and the warranties of merchantability and fitness were expressly disclaimed.
It doesn't seem like any kind of health guarantee is really given at all.
I'm hoping someone else sees something I missed (again I am totally rusty with contracts). Still, I would contact your credit company and give it a go.
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07-29-2010, 11:24 AM
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This is SO very sad! I will be sending good thoughts to you and Charlie.
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07-29-2010, 11:35 AM
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This is very unfortunate. Hopefully you can pull yourself together and make the call ASAP to the CC company. Time is not on your side. You have to protect whatever you can at this point. Document everything!
I hope the best for her.
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07-29-2010, 11:45 AM
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Ugh..see, this is exactly why puppy mills are so terrible. Keeping puppies in horrible, sickly conditions and then deceiving a buyer (you) into thinking you are getting a healthy dog.
I hate to say it, but I had a haunting feeling something like this would happen. I hoped that I was wrong. I wish you and your new pup, Charlie the best. In the meantime, I would follow everyone's advice and contact your credit card company.
Best of luck and I am so sorry this has happened!
Oh, and the IV should not hurt your dog. Dogs are IV'd when they are spayed and neutered.
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07-29-2010, 11:46 AM
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I am sorry you have had to learn all these lessons. Sorrier still for this pup, more sorry for the parents still trapped at the puppymill. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE share your experience with everyone you know and everyone who someday (hoping the pup pulls through) compliments your dog. You don't want others to go through this experience. And it is the only way puppy mills will be stopped is when people stop buying from them because they learn how to buy a puppy from a reputable breeder. These people aren't going to take your dog. They have what they want - your money. That is the ONLY thing they care about. Please educate everyone you can. Have them go to
Puppies Aren't Products - Best Friends Network which talks about puppymills and how to avoid your situation.
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07-29-2010, 11:47 AM
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I agree, call the credit card company ASAP. Get your mom involved. Parents always seem to know what to do! They will be able to tell you what documentation you need to certify the claim.
Hope Charlie is ok, I know it can be very scary when they're at the vet.
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07-29-2010, 11:47 AM
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All good wishes for you and Charlie. Please do as others have advised and call the credit card company. I am so sorry this happened to you.
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07-29-2010, 11:50 AM
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sadly the contract gives you very little recourse. :
s. This guarantee does not cover any of the following conditions: intestinal parasites (Coccidiosis, Giardia, Tapeworms, Hookworms, or Roundworms), Ringworm, Kennel Cough, Pneumonia, Ear Mites, Skin Mites, Mange (Sarcoptic, Demodectic or Cheyletiella), Cherry Eye, Allergies, Herniations (Umbilical, Inguinal, Perineal, or Diaphragmatic), deciduous teeth removal, dewclaws, Intervertebral Disc Disease (IVDD), Heart Murmur grades I, II or III, Patella Luxation grades I, II or III. This guarantee does not cover any Veterinarian costs associated with spaying or neutering, including undescended testes. You must follow PUREBRED BREEDERS, LLC recommended nutritional program, including feeding only premium dog foods and vitamin supplement listed in the paperwork that we give you at the time of purchase.
Basically it states right there if it's sick they aren't held responsible and that unless you buy the food they say and the vitamins they say- and have the reciepts if they are sick from anything else they are not responsible.
It also states that the dog must be viewed by a vet with on 2 days of reciept for the contract to be valid.
Try teh CC company- but sadly i think you are SOL. :( HOpe Charlie is OK
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07-29-2010, 11:59 AM
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Pinky, I'm so sorry Charlie is sick. I was hoping we would get to see pictures today.
I agree with all of the others. You really need to call the cc company and get a refund for your money and keep the puppy.
A contract formalizes the exchange of goods. You wanted a healthy puppy, they wanted money. You gave money, but you didn't get a healthy puppy. Therefore, they didn't hold up their end of the contract. Perfectly logical that you deny them payment until they hold up their end of the deal.
They are not going to give you a refund or pay for vet bills. It's just how puppy mills operate. You can always try, but canceling your payment through your credit card gives you time to work something else out.
I will keep little Charlie in my prayers and hope that she will recover.
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