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Old 06-25-2010, 07:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Did someone recently bring home a pup from an awesome breeder in NJ? I think I remember reading it the other day, but I cannot remember who the breeder was. I'm asking for 1jurisdiva, who just had a terrible experience at a show looking for breeders.

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It's not New Jersey, but Connecticut is pretty close... this is one of the breeders I was looking at when I got Vinnie:

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I know of a GREAT breeder in Hackettstown, New Jersey: Cabryn Poodles, Carolyn O'Rourke, breeder. She has toys, minis and standards. My silver mini boy is from Cabryn and he's terrific in every way. The website is:

cabrynpoodles.com
Phone # 908-852-3299

Carolyn told me she's bringing some poodles to a customer over in Russia and she may be away now, but she is VERY good and prompt in responding to inquiries. And yes, another forum member, Eliza, recently got a 5 month old black male mini, Beau,from Cabryn.
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I know of a GREAT breeder in Hackettstown, New Jersey: Cabryn Poodles, Carolyn O'Rourke, breeder. She has toys, minis and standards. My silver mini boy is from Cabryn and he's terrific in every way. The website is:

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Phone # 908-852-3299

Carolyn told me she's bringing some poodles to a customer over in Russia and she may be away now, but she is VERY good and prompt in responding to inquiries. And yes, another forum member, Eliza, recently got a 5 month old black male mini, Beau,from Cabryn.
Thank you, this is it! I remember the thread from the other day...I will pass this along, and keep them in mind for myself, as well!
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Thank you Skye, AgilityIG, and Chagall's Mom!

The Songbird website has some amazing performance action shots, and Cabryn's poodles are so lovely (not to mention that I have always thought Chagall was a silver dream boy). I will definitely keep these at the top of my list.

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It's not New Jersey, but Connecticut is pretty close... this is one of the breeders I was looking at when I got Vinnie:

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Where did you get Vinnie? I was looking at a site with the Kleinpudels the other day. Is Vinnie your avatar?
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Where did you get Vinnie? I was looking at a site with the Kleinpudels the other day. Is Vinnie your avatar?
Yep - Vinnie is my avatar. He came from Karin Benker - Karbit Poodles - she is in Oregon (but will be moving to Nevada). I would not hesitate to get a dog from her again. I have seen/heard about many of her dogs and they are fantastic performance dogs and have wonderful temperaments. I live in Iowa and flew Vinnie to Chicago (direct flight) and then drove to Chicago to pick him up.

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I would like to add a word of caution to the glowing recommendations for Cabryn poodles. Unfortunately, I did not have the happy experience that some of you have had. I am strictly a pet owner--not a breeder myself. Nor am I a breeder basher.

This is what I experienced. In September of 2001, I had to say a last good-by to my 16-year-old mini poodle. In October of 2001 I contacted Cabryn about finding a new poodle. I wanted another mini, because that is what I had always had. Carolyn was quick to respond and invited me to see a 14-week-old black male that was ready to go. She also stated that she had a 4-week-old silver mini and a 4-week old black mini. I drove to Hackettstown to see the puppies. The older black male had just been groomed and fluffed. He was gorgeous. Unfortunately, he wanted nothing to do with me. I couldn't engage him in play. When I picked him up at Carolyn's suggestion, he tried to jump out of my arms. I put him down before he could hurt himself and moved on to look at the silver mini. He was so cute, and lovable, I thought he was worth the wait. There was no mention of health testing of parents, and I didn't question it as I had gotten my previous poodle 16 years before. Merlin, as I named him, was the only puppy in his litter. While I was there, I was also shown an apricot toy female who was probably going to be large. So there were puppies from at least four different litters there in the toy and mini size at that time. Again this was not a cause of alarm for me.

I picked up Merlin two weeks later, as it turned out that he was six weeks old, not four weeks. The only kind of health guarantee I got was, take the puppy to your vet in so many days and if there is any genetic fault your vet finds, you can bring him back. At first everything was fine. My vet pronounced him healthy. Merlin grew into a handsome dog--a good-looking poodle.

Unfortunately, there were other problems. I tried to get Merlin used to being brushed as a tiny pup. I set him on my lap and tried to take a few strokes with the brush. This bitty thing growled and bit at the brush. I thought maybe he was scared of it, so I put the brush on the floor to let him get used to it. He grabbed it by the handle and hauled it off. I tried treating while brushing. Eventually I could brush his head, his back and a little way down each leg, but never farther. When a bit of feces clung to his fur, there was no way he would let me trim it off. I devised a way, but he would bite seriously. Luckily he could not get to my hands. He fought every groomer I ever took him to and had to be muzzled to be groomed. I got my vet to prescribe tranquilizers, but that didn't work either. I was not a novice dog owner. I believe I was doing everything right. I took him to puppy kindergarten. I followed trainers suggestions. I do believe his temperament was part of his breeding.

When Merlin was just about a year old, he started coming up lame on walks. It was luxating patellas. I took him to a specialist and had surgery on both knees at a cost of over $2000. This is another genetic defect. He was a rotten patient during his recovery. I needed to carry him up and down stairs. I was as gentle as I could be, but he would fight me with teeth trying to do serious injury. Despite his many problems, I would never have given up on him.

At a little over three years of age Merlin developed immune mediated hemolytic anemia. In 48 hours he went from being healthy to a call from my vet saying he couldn't save him. I researched this disease and while there is no known cause, there are two suspect areas--over-vaccination and heredity.

I know there many Cabryn poodles that are champions. I hope all of you who have poodles from there, enjoy your dogs for many years. This is not a breeder I would ever recommend to a friend.
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Poodlelvr - I am so sorry to hear about your experience with Merlin, and thank you so much for sharing your story. It is definitely something to keep in mind.

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I know there many Cabryn poodles that are champions. I hope all of you who have poodles from there, enjoy your dogs for many years. This is not a breeder I would ever recommend to a friend.
So sorry this happened to Merlin and you.
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