Raiko

Whats the difference. when I type that in on google images I got light silvers, dark silvers, blacks with white faces, and everything inbetween.

Can someone tell me how to tell a silver from a blue and show me some pictures of real blues.

and do they fade to the same color?

WonderPup

I'm not an expert by any means and I have no doubt somebody can explain it loads better that I can. However I believe blues tend to appear almost black for a long long time. The final color is a lot darker as well. There are several blue owners on the forum who can probably provide pictures. Silvers can be almost white in some of the photos you see. Platnium is a good word I suppose. As babies they are often already silver on their face and feet, my girl was. She'll be 10 months old tomarrow.

Maybe the variations you are seeing, especialy the blacks with white faces, are young silvers before they turn silver if that makes sense. Saleen was a real dark black all over except face and feet, already they were very light silver. In fact a lot of people thought she was a very old dog rather than a 4 month old puppy.

aki

This website has been very informative for me regarding coat colors. I've linked it to the black and blue page, and at the very bottom there are pictures comparing black, blue, and silver poodles as adults and puppies.

http://arpeggiopoodles.tripod.com/po...eandblack.html

It does a good job of explaining what a black and blue should look like. If you look around that site you will find the other coat colors as well.

But regarding your last question, no, silvers and blues do not clear to the same color. Not all blues will fade to the same color either. Some may clear lighter then others because in all honesty, not all poodles are made equally.

Raiko

thank you. that was great help!

cbrand

Silver and Blue are variations on Black.

I think the best way to think about it (but not a scientifically accurate way) is that Blue comes from one dose of the fading allele laid on top of Black and the color is lightened to a gun metal grey color. Silver gets a double dose and the Black lightens to a sterling or platinum color.

There is discrepancy at the edges of each color..... is light blue actually dark silver? Also, far far too many people call their bad faded Blacks, Blue. Also dogs that get all greyed out from grissleing are sometimes called Blue. I don't think this is a true Blue or Silver color.

If you want a good Silver or Blue, the best thing is to look for a puppy who has a very light face at 8 weeks. If the face is platinum, the puppy will most likely be silver. If the face is a lighter dusky grey, the dog will probably be blue. If you want good color, you probably want to pass on the puppy that has a face that is dark and dusky but not really black. These dogs often end up with that odd middle ground between bad black and very dark blue. I think this is one of the least attractive colors in poodles.

Belle is one of the nicest blues I've ever seen. She really does have a "blueish" tint to her color:
http://www.calaespetresort.com/showdogs.html

I think Jib is a good example of a true Silver. The clearing process takes time, but you can see how light Jib's skin is. Plus, I had to post his page so that you all could feel guilty about the fact that you are just not getting out and doing enough with your own dogs
http://www.geocities.com/jibandsuzicope/

Raiko

I dont have a dog yet =P getting one this june