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Old 04-20-2017, 03:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Does your poodle bounce insanely high? A pre-hunting ritual?

Puffy is a bouncer. I call it 'the pop'. He has this funny move that he does when he sees a rabbit or a bird. He freezes for a moment and will often point his foot in the direction of the "victim", and then he bounces a couple times while staying in the same place. His head actually bounces higher than my head and I am 5'7. So it's a BIG bounce!

He will do this when we are walking and he doesn't even pull the leash or anything when it happens. He just repeatedly springs up 5+ feet in the air from a standing position. He does it in complete silence and never barks. It's funny because we will be walking along and all of a sudden there is a silent poodle head above my eye level, and I don't even feel it in the leash!

Admittedly, I do have to then brace myself, because if I don't act fast then it can be the first sign that he is going into "very serious Rambo hunter mode", and he could eventually try to bolt in order to catch dinner for the family. I know he thinks I am a fool for discouraging him, as he seems to know that his father and I a very poor hunters who shame the family by never making a live kill. He must wonder how we are always coming up with more food for him to plough through.

The bouncing thing seems like some sort of hunting instinct. Some sort of pre-chase ritual, though the purpose of which evades me. Is it to see the prey better and judge exactly where it is? I know one person who had a Welsh spaniel (a bird dog) and she said they are also notorious for their silent bouncing, and that the original purpose of this was to scare birds from high grass, only in the immediate vicinity so that they would fly up. However, due to the silence factor, all birds within a square mile or more would not be frightened off. So it wouldn't ruin the entire area for hunting and would just stir up the spot the hunters were ready for. An interesting thought.

Does anyone know about the "freeze, point and bounce" move? Does your poodle have a version?

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Old 04-20-2017, 07:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I wish you could get a video of this - I would love to see it!
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Asta pops up straight in the air though I wouldn't say it is hunting related - more just general excitement. A sight to see for sure.
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Yes, bouncing from excitement, often when we are going . . . 'outside!' A friend marvelled that he jumped straight up right next to her, without touching her. Whereas I was concerned that he was jumping on a person. Guess it doesn't count as an assault if one doesn't make contact. Though that behavior next to an evaluator was enough to eliminate us from the first try at the CGC. The evaluator wasn't as generous in his assessment as my friend, who coincidentally has a bearded collie, another 'bouncer.'
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Wilson is a big bouncer, too. He does not touch people, but is at eye level. He stays in a four foot high dog run because he was trained to do so. He bounces much higher than the fence, very rarely does he even touch it. My old boy was a bouncer in his youth, but he did not attain Wilson's height. Wilson is a much more square dog, and I think that contributes to his agility. He has never bounced on leash. All of my dogs are very serious when on leash, and pretty energetic when running loose. My daughter's dog has strong prey drive; he's very birdy. I've never seen him bounce, though. He does leap four foot fences with glee, ugh. The two brothers were not raised together, and they learned different ground rules.
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Poppy does the exact same insanely high bounce thing.....not in a hunting/field environment. She did it yesterday at Lowes when she spotted another dog with whom she wanted to play. It scared the other dog, a 5 month old Visula who was about 10 feet away from us. His and his mothers eyes were HUGE, like saucers upon witnessing the " poodle bounce". I, too, am 5'7" tall and she clears my head in a single bounce, while standing right next to me. Following the PB Poppy tries to engage with elaborate play bows, more vigorous bounces and sometimes a few yips. She does strain the leash and my shoulders.

This is repeated at EVERY SINGLE pet store when we shop. Our locally owned pet shops where I used to work allow their employees to bring their well behaved dogs to work so Poppy views their stores as a giant playground with lots of treats and food and lots of playmates.

It is exhausting and I am seeking professional help next week. Seriously, seeking professional help....I have exhausted my own bag of tricks on this one.

My chiropractor friend is worried about the state of my shoulders, he has had to rehabilitate them before and believe me...it is NOT FUN, and I am worried that Poppy will injure herself as well.

It is an impressive feat of athleticism and it is astonishing for those who have not witnessed it before.

It is exhausting for me.

I feel your pain....and share your amazement at our poodle kids' abilities.
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Abbey is a straight up bouncer when she's excited, but has never even tried to jump over a 3 foot fence. I agree VQ it does get exhausting at times, and with your shoulders it could be bad. Dolly doesn't jump straight up, and I'm hoping she doesn't start.
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Poppy does the exact same insanely high bounce thing.....not in a hunting/field environment. She did it yesterday at Lowes when she spotted another dog with whom she wanted to play. It scared the other dog, a 5 month old Visula who was about 10 feet away from us. His and his mothers eyes were HUGE, like saucers upon witnessing the " poodle bounce". I, too, am 5'7" tall and she clears my head in a single bounce, while standing right next to me. Following the PB Poppy tries to engage with elaborate play bows, more vigorous bounces and sometimes a few yips. She does strain the leash and my shoulders.

This is repeated at EVERY SINGLE pet store when we shop. Our locally owned pet shops where I used to work allow their employees to bring their well behaved dogs to work so Poppy views their stores as a giant playground with lots of treats and food and lots of playmates.

It is exhausting and I am seeking professional help next week. Seriously, seeking professional help....I have exhausted my own bag of tricks on this one.

My chiropractor friend is worried about the state of my shoulders, he has had to rehabilitate them before and believe me...it is NOT FUN, and I am worried that Poppy will injure herself as well.

It is an impressive feat of athleticism and it is astonishing for those who have not witnessed it before.

It is exhausting for me.

I feel your pain....and share your amazement at our poodle kids' abilities.
I must add that in all other situations Poppy has excellent leash manners, goes into lots and lots of retail establishments in town and ismthe perfect lady. She gets complimented on her manners for such a young dog, then another dog enters the picture and all bets are off and the leaping with joy begins.

The trainer I talked to asked what our problem is. I said she is very dog reactive....bad choice of words as she assumed aggressive. I explained.. nooo....more like an over abundance of joy upon seeing another dog!
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Gracie will do exactly the same and has done so since she was 6 months old. She sees or scents the game and points (to tell the rest of the pack) then she bounces about 6 feet. (in case we are in long grass and can't see her) If I say nothing she will then advance like a cat and pounce on the prey or jump up and seize it in the air. If I say "NO" she will stay at my side. (and sometimes bounce again just in case I missed the first one) In Africa they say springboks "prong" Gracie does this when happy on the run. Jumping is a joyful expression. Its in the breed.

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Gunther and Gustav don't do the bouncing that you describe, but as soon as I read your post it brought back to mind a Youtube video which I watched a long time ago...
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