Toy vs Miniature - Page 3 - Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too!
   

Go Back   Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too! > Poodle Forums > Poodle Talk

Poodle Talk General Poodle Talk! Ask questions, meet new people.

PoodleForum.com is the premier Poodle Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-05-2013, 11:53 AM   #21 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 126,176, Level: 100 Points: 126,176, Level: 100 Points: 126,176, Level: 100
Activity: 0.9% Activity: 0.9% Activity: 0.9%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,613
Thanks: 6
Thanked 1,128 Times in 657 Posts
Default

I think you have a great list going. Now to narrow down the wants. What is the purpose of your dog? Companion, obedience, agility, conformation, therapy etc... Once you narrow that down you can narrow the list. The Coton has the worst coat ever to groom. I have poodles, Chinese crested, pom x yorkie as small dogs. My Crested was my 1 st venture into small dogs. She is a great companion but didn't work out in the Obedience ring due to a soft temper. She could feel me tense up or a slight rise in voice & she would begin to shut down. My 2nd Crested from the same breeder was a disappointment, he was bitey, shy,& a bit on the stupid side. No more Cresteds for me & what I have seen in the ring I am glad I changed breeds. The all did obtain their CGC but that was it. My pom x yorkie was out of rescue & a great running partner he had 2 years of extreme separation anxiety & a barker. Now I have Poodles in all 3 sizes & I won't have any other breed.
3dogs is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-05-2013, 03:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 1,938, Level: 27 Points: 1,938, Level: 27 Points: 1,938, Level: 27
Activity: 8.2% Activity: 8.2% Activity: 8.2%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Names of dogs: Spot (no longer with me) and Nero RIP Both Lab mixes
Location: UK
Posts: 134
Thanks: 79
Thanked 223 Times in 76 Posts
Default

I haven't decided yet. All I know is that I don't want a big working dog Loved my labs but not the dogs that I want to be responsible for on my own.

I haven't decided between the little shy but loyal to one person couch potato cuddly sweety that doesn't really like long walks.

or the super intelligent hyper dog like the poodle that will always keep me on my toes and will challenge my dog abilities and training knowledge. The one where I can see the wheels turning in its head when I look in its eyes. That will need its daily exercise. Like my former best friend Spot son of Bun the border collie/lab mix.

Or even the tenacious and stubborn terrier that will think about it for a while before obeying a command. But will always be a lively character to live with and brighten my day with their love of life.

I would like to try agility but I wouldn't be devastated if my dog wasn't good at it. It would mainly be a companion, it would be my companion so I wouldn't mind a dog that isn't great with a family. The sort that really bonds with one person.

My greatest issue is that I haven't had first hand interaction with most if these breeds i really want to meet a breed before I get it. I did spend sometime with an Australian Silky Terrier during the holiday and he was a delight. He was high energy but not annoying as I expected a terrier to be. He brightened the room with his happiness and friendliness.
__________________
When all is done, upon the tomb is seen,
Not what he was, but what he should have been.
But the poor dog, in life the firmest friend,
The first to welcome, foremost to defend,
Whose honest heart is still his master’s own,
Who labors, fights, lives, breathes for him alone,
Unhonored falls, unnoticed all his worth,
Denied in heaven the soul he held on earth –
While man, vain insect! hopes to be forgiven,
And claims himself a sole exclusive heaven.

Lord Byron - Epitaph of a Dog - 1808
spotsonofbun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2013, 04:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 7,454, Level: 60 Points: 7,454, Level: 60 Points: 7,454, Level: 60
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Panda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Names of dogs: Panda
Poodle Type: Miniature Parti Poodle
Location: UK
Posts: 760
Thanks: 27
Thanked 180 Times in 98 Posts
Default

I would say you could come meet us as we are only about an hour from Kent however Panda is not exactly the best example of the breed and might put you off Poodles lol! I am actually going to Kent to compete in flyball on the 20th too!
Panda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2013, 07:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 22,436, Level: 100 Points: 22,436, Level: 100 Points: 22,436, Level: 100
Activity: 17.3% Activity: 17.3% Activity: 17.3%
Last Achievements
 
Ladyscarletthawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Names of dogs: Eve and Fergie
Poodle Type: Toy and Miniature
Location: MS
Posts: 715
Thanks: 270
Thanked 533 Times in 314 Posts
Default

Here in the states the all breed kennel clubs have meet the breeds. You can also contact the local breed clubs and see if you can visit breeders and get a feel for their breed and honest fist hand opinion.


Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App
__________________
Laura, Eve, and Fergie
Ladyscarletthawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 02:06 AM   #25 (permalink)
fjm
Senior Member
Points: 58,900, Level: 100 Points: 58,900, Level: 100 Points: 58,900, Level: 100
Activity: 99.7% Activity: 99.7% Activity: 99.7%
Last Achievements
 
fjm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Names of dogs: Sophy (Papillon), Poppy
Poodle Type: Toy Poodle
Location: North of England
Posts: 6,785
Thanks: 1,332
Thanked 7,358 Times in 3,191 Posts
Default

I think you sound a perfect candidate for rescuing a dog - experienced, no fixed ideas as to breed or sex, no overwhelming expectations as to capabilities, prepared to put the work into building a relationship with a dog ... so my advice would be to continue making the time pass with research, and as soon as you are able get to know your local rescues. If you have time volunteer to do some dog walking, perhaps, or sitting with dogs in need of company. You will have the advantage of the rescue's experience with evaluating dogs, get to spend time with possible matches, and sooner or later meet the perfect dog for you. (My guess would be within about 30 minutes of settling in suitable accommodation...!)

One thing I would say is to look to the future. Life is tough and uncertain at the moment. If you are likely to be in shared housing, or needing to fall back on family or friends in the coming years it is not just your decision - they need to be prepared to welcome your dog as well. Perhaps another reason for choosing a small, non-shedding, cheerful character?
__________________

To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back in Eden,
where doing nothing was not boring- it was peace.
~ Milan Kundera
fjm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 03:16 AM   #26 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 1,938, Level: 27 Points: 1,938, Level: 27 Points: 1,938, Level: 27
Activity: 8.2% Activity: 8.2% Activity: 8.2%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Names of dogs: Spot (no longer with me) and Nero RIP Both Lab mixes
Location: UK
Posts: 134
Thanks: 79
Thanked 223 Times in 76 Posts
Default

Im thinking of volunteering with the cinnamon trust that helps elderly people to keep their pets. So I would walk their dogs and so on and If I am in suitable accommodation later foster if the owners end up in hospital. I do have experience but Im a little rusty I need to re-socialise myself with dogs because I did distance myself after Spot was rehomed when mom decided to move to the UK. He was my best friend.

However I am also going to look for shelters near me to volunteer at one that preferably dedicates a lot of time into rehabilitation. I really want to learn how to do that. I do feel it would be unfair for me to get a puppy from a breeder. I have nothing against breeders I want to become one one day, but I am in a position where I don't have children around me or other pets (except a bearded dragon but he would be kept separate from the dog anyway) so like you said I am in a very good position to rescue.

and yes I am terrified of the uncertainty of life I am not rehoming again its too painful. Thats why have chosen small breeds easier to find accommodation and a bit cheaper if I have to budget and people are more likely to be willing to dogsit a pretty little poodle than a smelly labrador. depending on whether I managed to get it to behave of course

I think getting the dog in my final year in university would be best. It gives me time to save and volunteer and research training and rehabilitation and because of how my degree is structured I will be home most of time. That will give me time to crate train and socialise so I wont have to worry about the dog at home when I start working or I can be confident to send it to doggy day care.
__________________
When all is done, upon the tomb is seen,
Not what he was, but what he should have been.
But the poor dog, in life the firmest friend,
The first to welcome, foremost to defend,
Whose honest heart is still his master’s own,
Who labors, fights, lives, breathes for him alone,
Unhonored falls, unnoticed all his worth,
Denied in heaven the soul he held on earth –
While man, vain insect! hopes to be forgiven,
And claims himself a sole exclusive heaven.

Lord Byron - Epitaph of a Dog - 1808
spotsonofbun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 04:26 AM   #27 (permalink)
fjm
Senior Member
Points: 58,900, Level: 100 Points: 58,900, Level: 100 Points: 58,900, Level: 100
Activity: 99.7% Activity: 99.7% Activity: 99.7%
Last Achievements
 
fjm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Names of dogs: Sophy (Papillon), Poppy
Poodle Type: Toy Poodle
Location: North of England
Posts: 6,785
Thanks: 1,332
Thanked 7,358 Times in 3,191 Posts
Default

Cinnamon Trust and other volunteering sounds like an excellent plan. Not quite so sure about getting a dog before you graduate, though - my university years are long behind me, but as I recall it took very little to distract me from working for finals, and needing to play with/walk/groom/train/feed the dog would have been the perfect excuse! Perhaps it would be wiser to wait until you have found a job and accommodation, and know the demands in terms of time, travel and pet deposits before falling in love ...
__________________

To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back in Eden,
where doing nothing was not boring- it was peace.
~ Milan Kundera
fjm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 06:37 AM   #28 (permalink)
Mel
Senior Member
Points: 3,623, Level: 39 Points: 3,623, Level: 39 Points: 3,623, Level: 39
Activity: 10.5% Activity: 10.5% Activity: 10.5%
Last Achievements
 
Mel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Names of dogs: Sandy
Poodle Type: mpoo
Location: Florida
Posts: 281
Thanks: 302
Thanked 355 Times in 113 Posts
Default

I've had two of the breeds on your list. When me and my husband first got married we got a yorkshire terrier. Unfortunately we really jumped into and drove several hours to buy from a bad breeder. I think when we arrived I knew it wasn't the best breeder to buy from but when we saw the puppies we were lost. At around a year we found out that she had a liver disease (the vet said it was the kind you couldn't operate on) and we made the best of the time we had with her. She was the best, most stubborn, fun, very determind most loved dog. Not raised with kids she would bark at them and try to bite if pushed. Loved to bark when the door bell rang (and wouldn't stop when you asked). She was a big tough dog in a small package. We lost her to the liver disease at the age 8 when we forgot to clean off the table and she got on it (couldn't have protein). It was a horriable time.

The Chinese Crested was from a show breeder and was as cute as a chinese crested could be. We feel in love with her when we saw her at 6months old when she was playing with her siblings. She was fast, fun, but later as we found out as stupid as stuid gets. She turned out to be very timid once away from her pack and then attached to my Yorki. She would follow right behind my feet but if I moved to quick in the other direction she would scream bloody murder (no we never stepped or kicked her). Never really attached to much to us though she would cuddle in our laps (she liked a warm lap). I think she felt lost when Shelby the yorkie past and got more timid without her leader. Will never ever buy a chinese crested again no matter how cute.

Then we got a 3yr old lab off of craigslist. That dog shed all over the house and hair was everywhere. All over the my youngest face, in the food ..it was gross. Loved the dog but couldn't keep the hair problem and placed her with a rescue. She was adopted right into a home that was waiting for a lab that was great with kids.

When we looked at dogs we were between poodles or papillons. One day we will have a Yorkshire Terrier again but when the kids our grown up and if we don't have a farm. A yorkie would run away because of all the things to chase. We choose a mini poodle because of the size. Medium so it wouldn't break from the kids. Sandy has turned out great. She goes outside without a fence with me and goes to the barn and stays near (though has a small fenced area when we aren't watching). She's mouthier than our other dogs and we are still working on that. So far she's got along with every dog that has been introduced to her. She is a bigger mini and I love her size. I've been floating around the idea of another poodle but I'm not sure we are ready yet. If do get a poodle bewarned you really have to keep up with the grooming or you will have a mess. It's worth it though :0).

Anyways that's the story of our dog life lol. Hope it helps.
Mel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 08:26 AM   #29 (permalink)
Member
Points: 3,071, Level: 36 Points: 3,071, Level: 36 Points: 3,071, Level: 36
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Names of dogs: My dog Sophie previously passed away this summer, but will have a new miniature in a few months!
Poodle Type: My new puppy will be a miniature
Location: Oceanside, CA
Posts: 86
Thanks: 62
Thanked 169 Times in 43 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Travis
Default

I think you asked some good questions and owning only two poodles, I'll give you my input! I have spent a lot of time around other peoples poodles. I think all sizes of poodles are intelligent. My standard was super smart, smarter than many humans I know. She would steal food and try to hide the evidence outside by carrying the wrappers out of the house, she would open doors and when I had the knobs on the inside changed she immediately started letting herself in from the outside just to show she could still open the doors. She was very smart. I now have a mini poodle and she is only 13 weeks old. She may be even smarter! She learned to sit in around two minutes and down in less than 5 minutes. She learned her name in around 24 hours and knows what comes means, although she sometimes chooses not to listen. I think a big difference in sizes is the energy level, and of course that does not hold true for all dogs. I think the miniatures have a huge degree of stamina where my standard was a race horse--she would run the race, rest a bit and then run again. A lot of the miniatures I see are go go go go go go. My breeder had toys too, and I DID NOT want a toy but I left her house WANTING ONE! I have really loved my puppy stage so far but Josie is growing out of her carrier very quickly and I have loved taking her everywhere with me...on beach walks, to the store, etc...that is the big perk of having a toy poodle. They toys I met were amazingly sweet, althletic and smart. I went with the miniature because the breeder thought for my activity level it would be best and while I still considered a toy I did not want to worry about sitting on it or stepping on it while underfoot or with small children who could accidentally hurt it. I am pretty confident that I will have a toy one day as the ones I fell in love with were the funniest acrobats and loved sitting on laps. I think with a toy, breeding is very important as often people have mentioned poor teeth or thin bones that break when they jump off something that is too high. My breeders philosophy for a Toy Poodle is that if they can get up on something then they need to be able to get down on their own without hurting themselves. If they do hurt themselves then they are too fragile and should not be bred. I don't think you can go wrong with any size and there are occasions where you will wish you had one of each size!!! My standard was great to grab onto and she was wonderful with kids and you didn't have to worry about her getting hurt or hurting them. I think either toy or miniature is good for apartment living. My mom is visiting and we are renting a beach condo and Josie has learned to go out to the balcony on the potty grass very quickly. She actually does better there than at the house! I got her a product called Fresh Patch and she loves it (sometimes too much as she will eat it!) which is a fresh patch of grass. After this experience I think a poodle in an apartment is fine as long as they get daily walks. Josie is just a puppy, but has super high energy and after a walk on the beach she just relaxes on the balcony for a few hours before attacking my toes with her teeth. Good luck in your research!
Travis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 11:55 AM   #30 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 14,807, Level: 83 Points: 14,807, Level: 83 Points: 14,807, Level: 83
Activity: 44.9% Activity: 44.9% Activity: 44.9%
Last Achievements
 
Rhett'smom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Names of dogs: Rhett and Jippy
Poodle Type: Standard poodle and toy poodle
Location: CT
Posts: 876
Thanks: 77
Thanked 1,256 Times in 536 Posts
Default

Having had a toy poodle (Jip) who was the king of "you will pet me" and the art of "I will get what I want no matter what" . He was very smart and knew when to"play dumb" . Rhett is a spoo. He is very smart... Figured out how to open his crate and other antics. No matter whichever one you bring home it will be an adventure full of love and laughter. Just have fun keeping 2 steps ahead of your poodle:-)Toy vs Miniature-imageuploadedbypg-free1357502145.155888.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App
Rhett'smom is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is my pup toy or miniature? dustandthings Poodle Talk 13 12-25-2012 11:18 PM
Miniature or Toy for city living? american Poodle Talk 15 06-01-2012 09:33 AM
Jealousy between Toy, Miniature. HuckSnow General Training and Obedience 3 03-29-2012 02:58 PM
Miniature or Toy warmheartedpups Poodle Talk 3 03-04-2012 09:44 AM
Louwalk Miniature/ Toy Poodles Cdnjennga Poodle Breeder Directory 7 06-22-2010 10:42 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:56 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
All (C) PoodleForum.com
PetGuide.com
Basset Hound Forum Doberman Forum Golden Retriever Forum Beagle Forum
Boxer Forum Dog Forum Pit Bull Forum Poodle Forum
Bulldog Forum Fish Forum Havanese Forum Maltese Forum
Cat Forum German Shepherd Forum Labradoodle Forum Yorkie Forum Hedgehog Forum
Chihuahua Forum Retriever Breeds Cichlid Forum Dart Frog Forum Mice Breeder Forum