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Old 12-31-2012, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Our Spoo puppy is so adorable that sometimes he is hard to resist! We are being very, very diligent about keeping him in a pen (this is also where his crate is) and we only let him out to go outside to the bathroom, for training, or for a short playtime. Sometimes when he is sleepy though I just want to pick him up and sit him on the sofa next to me or in the bed to watch a movie. I haven't ever let him on the bed but he napped on the sofa on his first day home, but never since then.

Is this a HUGE no no that we should avoid no matter what? He is 9 weeks-old. I've heard that this can affect dominance/training issues.



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I think that is your preference if you want him on your furnitures or not. I have 2 toys and they are allowed everywhere. They both sleep with us on our bed. But then again they are toys and are much smaller than a standard. If you let him on your bed...it's soon going to be his bed. Lol
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Thank you! I should note that we won't mind him being on the sofa or bed when he is older. We're just worried about him not thinking we are in control/dominant anymore (we have been reading heavily about training!)
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My opinion is the only thing to be concerned with is whether you are willing to continue to allow Wade on the furniture as he grows. You want to be consistent in what you permit him to do now so you don't confuse him or create behaviors you don't want. I allow our mpoo on the furniture, but he's been taught to wait to be invited up and to get off when asked. Here's some related information from the Association of Pet Dog Trainers Website.

Behavior Myth: Dogs get on the furniture and/or beds to show that they rule the household.

Why Your Dog Really Does This: Dogs get on furniture and/or beds for the same reasons that people do - because they're very comfortable.

How to Change the Behavior: Teach your dog an "off" command so they learn to get down off the furniture when you ask them to.

If you do not want your dog on the furniture at any time, manage the household so that the dog is not able to get up on the furniture unawares. If they do, this reinforces that it's ok to sit on the furniture - you want to be able to block this from happening using baby gates, tethers, etc.

Provide the dog with a comfy dog bed or beds of his own and reinforce the dog for choosing to lay on them.

Finally, if you don't mind having your dog on the furniture but are afraid this means they're dominating you - relax! As long as you are setting the rules and guidelines in your house, it's ok for your dog to be on the furniture with you.


I trust Wade is snuggled up on the couch next to you right now? (Just be mindful of giving him potty breaks--he's a baby and accidents on the furniture are not a good thing!)
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Aw, thank you so much for a great reply
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Our Spoo puppy is so adorable that sometimes he is hard to resist! We are being very, very diligent about keeping him in a pen (this is also where his crate is) and we only let him out to go outside to the bathroom, for training, or for a short playtime. Sometimes when he is sleepy though I just want to pick him up and sit him on the sofa next to me or in the bed to watch a movie. I haven't ever let him on the bed but he napped on the sofa on his first day home, but never since then.

Is this a HUGE no no that we should avoid no matter what? He is 9 weeks-old. I've heard that this can affect dominance/training issues.



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As I sit here on my laptop on my bed surrounded by three dogs, I say- what the heck. They're on the bed. They don't sleep on the bed (they sleep in crates in the bedrooms). That said, they also get off the furniture and the bed when I tell them to. And, I can tell them not to get on the furntiure and they won't. My favorite time of night is lying on the couch watching TV with my dogs.

Poodles don't shed and whippet hairs are teeny tiny. That's my excuse.

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We had a toy who was allowed everywhere, she even slept under the covers. When we got a spoo, I actually uttered the words "I will not have a big dog on the furniture." It lasted twenty four hours. She was about a year old before she started sleeping on the end of the bed. She will sleep in her crate as well. The only thing I wish I had figured out sooner was to dremel her nails on the leather furniture. Live and learn. Like others have said as well, she will get off of the furniture or bed if told to do so. It just boils down to what you are comfortable with and being consistant with whatever that is.
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The whole "dogs will be dominant if allowed on the furniture" is a bunch of bologna. My dogs sleep with me all the time, I've never had an issue. They get off when told, and stay off when told. That's all I ask. As others have said, it's all about personal preference and consistency once you make up your mind.

I will say this about the dominance stuff though. My mom's Lhasa as a younger dog would jump into our lap and then try to stand over/above us. Not sure what he was trying to do, but he is a naturally bossy dog so I suspect he was testing to see if the humans could be "bossed". We proved to him we couldn't and he doesn't try anymore.
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Sorry, I know you are asking a serious question, but when I read the thread title I really did laugh out loud. (Well, an evil chuckle, anyway.) You see, your poodle OWNs the couch, bed, and every other comfy spot in the house. You just don't know it yet . . . .
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Lots of good advice - but if you are reading books that emphasise the need to "dominate" or "be boss", or be "pack leader", etc, etc I think you may find it helpful to put them away and find something more up to date! There is lots of excellent advice on raising a puppy into a happy adult available for free on the Dog Star Daily site Dog Star Daily There is even a free puppy training book to download, and Dr Ian Dunbar who wrote it is a genuine expert when it comes to dog behaviour and training.
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