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Old 12-06-2012, 01:40 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Well, if your not 100 % sure, then I say pass. Beau will pick up on the fact that your not sold on this, and he wont be eather.And for my 2 cents, your thinking about this way too much, that makes it not a good thing. When its right, its right, and you just know, and you dont have to put this much thought in to it. I , hope that i have not up set you, just trying to help you, and the 2, boys. Its just better if ALL 3 of you are happy.
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I agree with peppersb. Try to get them together again in different setting. I have done the meet and greet 4 times and not one of them went smoothly without some upset and ruffled feathers. Dogs will establish their own pecking order and interaction if left to their own devices. Some take longer than others but all of mine have ended up loving each other and getting along.


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I completely understand your thinking at this point LEUllman. Just know what you have here is a win-win situation; Beau is happy at home with his all human pack, and irresistible Louie will be in someone's heart and home before you can say supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. I commend you for giving the decisions so much thought. It's not easy to say "no" to puppy love, but it can be a good decision all the same. Please go to bed and rise early so you tell us your family's final decision after you've slept on it!!
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LEUllman......I have five poos (2 standards and three toys), the last two I got are the standards and when Jordan arrived Baby Lu was between 4 and 5. Lu HATED Jordan (5 month old puppy), I can remember saying "what did I do...she is so unhappy and I ruined her life". After about three weeks Lulu showed her a little attention, playing quite infrequently.....I was so upset that I did this to her (although Jordan was bought as a playmate for her). After about two months they became inseparable, partners in crime if you will, they do everything together.........and are the best of friends. They were out walking this summer (leashed), there was a pitbull attack, Lu fought back....she protected her sister and best friend. In the attached photo, Jordan is 11 months, by then they were already BFF's.
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Chagall's Mom is right it is a win-win. I am sure whatever your decision is it will be the right one. I do think personality wise Beau would be fine and warm up to the pup. Swizzle is standoffish till he gets to know the other dog. After he has adjusted it is play time. The fact that Louie did not pester Beau and the fact that Beau started to ignore Louie I actually see as very positive. You just have to see if another dog works for your family now. I actually think it is great you are thinking things through. It is those impulse puppy pick ups that can cause issues. I bet there will be a lot of serious discussion at your house tonight.
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I vote for the trial run approach if you feel it. Even though this story will be about cats, not poodles, it will illustrate the idea of why a trial of longer duration could be good. When I was an apartment dweller and had no yard to have a dog I had a persian cat. When Olivia was about five I decided that she seemed very bored. I decided to get a kitten for a companion for her. I ended up with two Maine Coon girls (sisters). At first it was awful, hissing, spitting nobody ate, etc. I took all three of them to the vet about two days after I brought Jackie and Alex home for a new kitten check and Olivia's annual. I picked Livvy up to put her in her carrier and she threw up on my shoes! Six months later when I had Jackie and Alex out at the vet overnight to be spayed I thought Olivia was going to die from the anxiety of it all. They all loved each other very much and when Olivia died Jackie and Alex missed her as much as I did. Jackie is on the left, Alex on the right and Olivia is in the middle in the picture of us all.

However if you decide otherwise you know he will go someplace great, so you shouldn't feel regrets.
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Actually I think their meeting went quite well....It takes time for them to lose the wariness and the fact no one got agressive is a good sign! But no matter what decision you make, let it be you and your family's! Like mentioned, no matter what, someone will give him a good and hopefully loving home even if it isn't you. Good luck!
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When I took 3-year-old Beau, to meet a 4.5 month old puppy at the breeder he wasn't thrilled. Puppy wanted to play and jumped on him. He growled and I was upset. The breeder told me that was nothing. He was just setting boundaries. As I sat there a while longer they both ignored each other. I think he would have been very upset and stressed, if I had left him there. I decided to bring Belle home with us. Five years later we are together and all are fine. You will have to decide what will work for you. Good luck!
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:40 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I don't think you should feel bad if you decide not to adopt Louie. At least you tried and thought it through! That is more than what most people do.

Just a warning though - it's dangerous if you ask a bunch of poodle people if you should get another poodle... the answer will be YES! lol A friend of mine kept posting pics of poodle puppies that a breeder recently had. I try not to look at those, cause the temptation is too much. And now that I added another cat, I'm at my limit!

I also feel like the first visit wasn't bad. Louie respected Beau's bounadries and left him alone. People always think a neutral place for two dogs to meet is best... but I think letting them meet in your home or backyard is better. You're comfortable in your own home, so is your dog, so both of you facing a new dog will be easier. I took Leroy to meet a black standard at the poodle rescue. Leroy probably thought I was going to take him back to the rescue and leave him there. I put him in a kennel so I could look at some of the dogs - he cried so much! His separation anxiety is so bad. So he was already anxious and amped up with thinking I was leaving him. So when it came down to the interacting with the black standard, Leroy wanted nothing to do with the dog. He kept following me and his eyes were on me at all times. He did not want me to leave him and was so worried about what I'd do next. The black standard seemed interested by wanting to sniff Leroy, but that's about it. I thought the first meeting went terribly - but other people said not to place too much concern into it. I didn't know how to feel about it, but by the time I decided that I should just suck it up and bring a dog home - the black standard was already adopted out. I regretted dragging my feet and still regret it. Then came the opportunity to adopt Louis. His name is pronounced "Louie" so I'm partial to the poodle pup's name! I did not know much about Louis, only his age and gender and a VERY general description and a couple of pictures. I was very indecisive until it came down to it, I said "why not!" I brought him home and acted like he was already part of the pack. Leroy was so excited and wanted to play, but the size and personality difference did not lend much to playing, and Louis growled and snarled and put Leroy is his place. They cannot play with each other like two big dogs, but they do compliment each other very well. And I think I would get annoyed if I had two dogs that were at the same energy level ALL the time. Leroy's separation anxiety is much better with Louis, and Louis has more confidence with Leroy around - he is more willing to meet strangers.

I do wonder how the meeting would have went if you had Louie and Beau both at your place, and you ignore Beau and give all of your attention to Louie. Maybe Beau would then want to join in and try to figure out what all of the commotion is about? it is also different when you have two dogs engaging in the same schedule and "pack activites" like walking, feeding, playing, etc.

Also, my Sphynx cats don't aboslutely love each other, but tolerate each other enough to keep each other company lol. BTW, lily cd re - I can't believe you got a pic of your cats all in your lap without anyone killing each other! a lot of props to you! I don't mean to hijack this thread, but just included a pic of my three cats together! That's the closest they've been to each other with the new cat (Persian) around. I say, if three cats can get along - so can two dogs that are new to each other!
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I feel you are putting human feelings onto Beau and that Louie would be good for Beau in the long run. It sounds more as if the meeting venue was upsetting Beau than the pup was. Why not try in a more neutral place that Beau is comfortable in. Louie sounds like a very well balanced confident young man.
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