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Old 01-05-2017, 03:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I did a member intro in November that we were losing our 14.5 year old Spoo and we were likely to want another. We are finding we really miss having a standard and so I started actual research into finding a new furry family member.

After discussions, my husband and I set our goal of finding an adult somewhere ideally between 2-6 years old. We have an almost one year old daughter so that takes us out of the running for every poodle rescue with in driving distance. Breeder referral came up empty handed.

I finally found a breeder with a couple adults and found that prices were around two thousand. Is this pretty typical? For some reason I figured retired adults might be a bit lower, but I guess I was wrong? Anyone have insight?

We also found a shelter Spoo that seemed perfect but he ended up needing a single dog household and we still have our bichon.

Since I am finding adult spoo's hard to find I figured I would ask if any of you have adult adoption experience to compare to or give me insight.

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All the adult dogs I adopted were 6+, but they were toys and a mini
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Hi, I'm so sorry for your loss :( I bought my dogs as puppies, but I can still offer you some advice.

I think it's ridiculous the rescues won't consider you because of your baby. I understand small dogs/babies possibly not mixing (although it's been fine in my sister's family), but spoos love babies! As for breeders' asking prices, I think $2K is reasonable for a well-bred, well-socialized young adult spoo. Think of all the time, energy, and money they've invested in the dog. The puppy phase is very expensive to get through! They are so rarely available. If you find a good one, I'd jump on it
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Hi, I'm so sorry for your loss :( I bought my dogs as puppies, but I can still offer you some advice.

I think it's ridiculous the rescues won't consider you because of your baby. I understand small dogs/babies possibly not mixing (although it's been fine in my sister's family), but spoos love babies! As for breeders' asking prices, I think $2K is reasonable for a well-bred, well-socialized young adult spoo. Think of all the time, energy, and money they've invested in the dog. The puppy phase is very expensive to get through! They are so rarely available. If you find a good one, I'd jump on it
I forgot to mention that the one breeder I came across with young adults seemed nice, but it told to me that none of the young adult dogs know any commands at all. Breeder stated that since they are at home she only leash trains. I found that odd though. Odd or normal? If you are portraying as a small show breeder I am assuming an adult would be socialized in public, so wouldn't "sit" or some training be normal?
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I got an adult dog (age 2 1/2) from a breeder and paid almost the same as for a puppy. She didn't have a ton of training as far as commands, but did have excellent leash manners and great manners in general. She's very well-behaved and was wonderfully socialized, great with dogs, cats, and kids, though she was not raised with kids or cats. We took a training class and she caught onto commands pretty easily. She's now a certified therapy dog.

I don't think it's unrealistic or unreasonable to expect to pay that much for a well-bred young adult dog...maybe not so much for an older dog. I would expect the dog to at least be well-socialized and have good manners if they are going to ask that much, though not necessarily to know many commands. I don't think I would buy from someone who did not bother to put in the work to socialize their dogs - I think that's an extremely important part of owning a puppy, no matter what you plan to do with them.
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I forgot to mention that the one breeder I came across with young adults seemed nice, but it told to me that none of the young adult dogs know any commands at all. Breeder stated that since they are at home she only leash trains. I found that odd though. Odd or normal? If you are portraying as a small show breeder I am assuming an adult would be socialized in public, so wouldn't "sit" or some training be normal?
I wouldn't be worried if the dog wasn't taught any commands, as long as he or she was well socialized. Make sure to get the full story on that! Before I bought Maizie, I almost went with a 7 month old, beautiful silver locally. However, the breeder said she was very sweet, but she used the phrase, "She needs to get out more." That scared me off, as I wanted to start off on the right food with my new spoo.
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First of all, I will speak with my experience and it is with a mini breeder in Canada, not a spoo breeder in U.S. I also have helped a couple people adopt spoos that were older, and have lots of friends with spoos they purchased as a pup. The price for a young adult for the spoo seems a bit high to me -- my experience with a mini (albeit a little older, and retired from show/breeding) at 3 years old, was a little different and much less $$$. That said, he is a "10" in my book in every way. I would be curious what that same breeder would charge for the spoos as pups. Again, my experience was with a mini, young adult, in Canada, so a little different.
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I forgot to mention that the one breeder I came across with young adults seemed nice, but it told to me that none of the young adult dogs know any commands at all. Breeder stated that since they are at home she only leash trains. I found that odd though. Odd or normal? If you are portraying as a small show breeder I am assuming an adult would be socialized in public, so wouldn't "sit" or some training be normal?
Were the dogs show dogs? Show dogs are often not trained in commands in case they accidentally sit in front of the judge. But if they are show dogs they should be fairly well socialized.

What's the breeder's kennel name? We can let you know if it looks good or not.
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I have read not to expect discounts on a young Poodle from a good show breeder. Same price as a puppy and maybe more. I would want a well-socialized Poodle with leash manners, not a dog that has been crated since he was overlooked as a puppy. We have had instances where a retired dam was available. That's a 4-6 year old female. Not much money may be exchanged in those transactions, but more ownership hurdles, like experience with the breed and a guarantee of a good permanent home.
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Commands can be trained at any age, but a dog that has missed out on socialisation will be playing catch up for the rest of its life. As others have said, that would be right up there with temperament and bite inhibition if I were looking for a young adult.
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