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Yes, I went through the Washington one and she came up with nothing.
I think wanting an adult is going to take some time, and not finding a match quickly could be considered an excellent sign that these wonderful breeders are placing their puppies so well .

In time, imho chances are there may come up a young adult who maybe is a finished champion or has points, but for whatever reason the breeder decided to place in a pet home. Seems to me most Poodles like this would be pretty well socialized to people, places, and other animals.
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I think wanting an adult is going to take some time, and not finding a match quickly could be considered an excellent sign that these wonderful breeders are placing their puppies so well .

In time, imho chances are there may come up a young adult who maybe is a finished champion or has points, but for whatever reason the breeder decided to place in a pet home. Seems to me most Poodles like this would be pretty well socialized to people, places, and other animals.
Thanks, that's my hope. I don't mind waiting, just want to ensure I'm on the right track. Waiting, however long it takes, is fine!
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Imho, if you can start meeting some Poodle fanciers in person, it will be to your benefit. Going to dog shows and watching ringside and asking questions after handlers are done for the day is a good way to start to meet people. I think it takes going to more than one or two shows, which is frankly a great way to spend the better part of a Saturday or Sunday for me anyway . If you'd like any help with finding dog shows, happy to help.

You could maybe also reach out to PCA's breeder referral rep for the eastern part of the country, Leslie Newing: Breeder Referral Contacts - Poodle Club of America .
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Imho, if you can start meeting some Poodle fanciers in person, it will be to your benefit. Going to dog shows and watching ringside and asking questions after handlers are done for the day is a good way to start to meet people. I think it takes going to more than one or two shows, which is frankly a great way to spend the better part of a Saturday or Sunday for me anyway . If you'd like any help with finding dog shows, happy to help.

You could maybe also reach out to PCA's breeder referral rep for the eastern part of the country, Leslie Newing: Breeder Referral Contacts - Poodle Club of America .
There seems to be an event in Salisbury md this April, but I'm not sure it's the right type of event to search people out. Just a convenient location because my husband is from there and his whole family still lives there. Know anything about this event?
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There seems to be an event in Salisbury md this April, but I'm not sure it's the right type of event to search people out. Just a convenient location because my husband is from there and his whole family still lives there. Know anything about this event?
Do you know what the show is in Salisbury, as I live an hour from there and would go?
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Do you know what the show is in Salisbury, as I live an hour from there and would go?
Its the 84th Annual National Specialty Show April 22nd-29th. I have no idea how big it is or whether its the type of event to get to know breeders.

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The National Specialty is a huge big deal and would be nirvana to attend, imho . In the past it was held in Salisbury, MD, and in 2017 it moves to St. Louis to the Purina Farms complex.

Feb. 18 and 19 there are shows in West Friendship, MD. April 22 and 23 there are shows in Timonium, MD. I don't know your location, but next weekend in Fredericksburg VA there are all breed shows.

You can use this map and click on a state where you could attend a show, then you'll see the list by ascending date once you've clicked on the state. InfoDog - The Dog Fancier's Complete Resource for information about AKC Dog Show Events, and Dog Products and Services

In the Type column look for AB meaning all breed show. S means specialty so if that's a Poodle club holding it, consider that of course. There is a legend if you click on the letters in Type. The far left column with the host club names is where you click to see who is the superintendent, show location, etc. Shortly before the show-within about a week or maybe ten days, you should be able to click in there and the judging program will be posted--which rings have which breeds and what are the ring times for each breed or variety.

The season really gets going more in the spring; Westminster is sort of the cap on the prior year's season.

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It breaks my heart that rescues won't consider you because you have a child. It is obvious that you would provide a good home for the dog.

I agree with what most people have already said. Try to talk to breeders that you like. Make sure you know how they socialize and treat their dogs. Most show breeders do not train their dogs for commands when they are training for the show ring--so don't be surprised about that and it doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong. One thing to consider though is, where are the dogs residing? Are they in someone's home? In a kennel somewhere? My dog trainer did conformation for 30+ years (with havanese, not poodles) and she told me that some of the show dogs she worked with were not house trained. They spent most of their downtime in a kennel. They may know how to stand still and then run back and forth and in a circle. But they don't know that they are not supposed to jump on the counter, run out the front door, or piddle in the corner of the room. So, just make sure you know about the breeder and how the pups are kept and socialized.

Also, something that you might consider--if the opportunity avails itself--is housing a breeder's stud or bitch. You'll have to live a certain distance away from the breeder and be willing to let the breeder use the dog when necessary for breeding. But, then once the dog is retired, you would get to keep it. In the past, I've seen some young adult dogs available on these terms and sometimes at discounted prices.
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It breaks my heart that rescues won't consider you because you have a child. It is obvious that you would provide a good home for the dog.

I agree with what most people have already said. Try to talk to breeders that you like. Make sure you know how they socialize and treat their dogs. Most show breeders do not train their dogs for commands when they are training for the show ring--so don't be surprised about that and it doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong. One thing to consider though is, where are the dogs residing? Are they in someone's home? In a kennel somewhere? My dog trainer did conformation for 30+ years (with havanese, not poodles) and she told me that some of the show dogs she worked with were not house trained. They spent most of their downtime in a kennel. They may know how to stand still and then run back and forth and in a circle. But they don't know that they are not supposed to jump on the counter, run out the front door, or piddle in the corner of the room. So, just make sure you know about the breeder and how the pups are kept and socialized.

Also, something that you might consider--if the opportunity avails itself--is housing a breeder's stud or bitch. You'll have to live a certain distance away from the breeder and be willing to let the breeder use the dog when necessary for breeding. But, then once the dog is retired, you would get to keep it. In the past, I've seen some young adult dogs available on these terms and sometimes at discounted prices.
Thanks, you have great advice.

Right now I haven't come up with any possibilities. One breeder was nice enough to tell me she would pass around my email with our information and experience to breeders in her club and those she knows. Most other breeders either didn't respond (completely understandable given they are busy people and we are looking for a needle in a haystack so to speak), or emailed back that they have no options nor do they expect to have anything. One breeder will put us in an older puppy category, but that was rare for her to have and not really what we are looking for anyway. I don't mind doing housebreaking or obedience training. I'm more seeking a stable temperament with no resource guarding (because of our daughter).

I did find a poodle rescue that seems to have re-done their website and I no longer see a child policy so I wrote a long application listing all our rescue experience, so hopefully they will at least consider us.

I think we are going to start considering looking at mixes too. It seems some of the golden retriever rescues, who get doodles, are more open to kids. I think we may be open to that...maybe.

I think the reality is that if we finally find someone who has an adult poodle, we then need for the dog to do well with kids and other dogs. Then comes the fact that we would take what we can get in terms of age, color, and gender. I was thinking of this last night that what if we wait, wait and wait and finally find a dog and I really don't like the color, or the age is really not what we wanted. (Having just lost Kodie, I dont want another senior dog).

So we may go back to the drawing board on if we are only open to a poodle or are we open to a dog of a different breed who has the personality to match what we want. We would love an athletic but not over the top water dog that my husband can go fishing/boating with on the Chesapeake bay (we are a water family). We want a dog I can take light jogging, a dog great with other dogs, and easy going. So a golden retriever could feasibly fit, certainly no spoo, but maybe I need to table the "must be a standard poodle" attitude if we dont want a puppy.

This turned into a novel! Sorry!
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