cavon

I have seen oversized toys and minis being shown, so don't give up for a half an inch or an inch. I also have only once seen a wicket being pulled out at a show and it wasn't for a poodle!

Measuring with a tape measure or even using the comb is difficult and probably not the most reliable. Also, you have to be sure that you are measuring in the correct spot, one inch forward or back will give a different result. I can measure Finnegan anywhere from 26-28 inches.

If you can find a wicket, that would be the most reliable measure, but you still have to be careful of the placement. Assuming that her front legs are solidly under her and not forward, you need to draw a straight line from the back of her leg, up past the elbow to the top of her back. That is her withers and where she should be measured.

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spookiesmom

My Aussie was conformation material, but I'm not. So we did obedience and agility instead. OMD!!! Agility is soooo much fun, the bond with your dog is incredible nice people to play with. Poodles can do it too, any dog really. I've even seen video of Maltese!! The dogs need to be measured with a wicket for jump height only, and they were issuing a card so you don't have to keep repeating that.

I fell apart physically or I'd still be in it. Go for it!!!!!

Mel

Well I know her dad is bigger than 15inch at the shoulders..I remember her telling me he was oversize and 15isn't. When I told the breeder that I'm not sure if i'm measuring Sandy right she told me that one of Sandy's brothers is measuring 16inch.

It's not the end of the world though. I will go to the UKC show and see how that is and see if I want to go that way. Agility does sound fun.

3dogs

Go & show your Poodle in the UKC show in December. It will be good experience for both of you. UKC is much more relaxed, NO pro handlers & of course NO hairspray, Wiggies etc..... more desirable IMHO. I can't wait to show my Toy in UKC it will be totally different than rall or obedience. Anyway, I have as of yet never seen a judge pull out a wicket & measure a Poodle, with all that hair how can one tell. I did though attend a grooming competition where there was a "toy/mini" poodle class & a "Spoo" class. The "toy/mini" class has a time limit based on height so 10"& under was 1 1/2 hrs to grooom, over 10-15 was 1 hr 45 etc.... Anyway, I questioned my time limit since I knew the dog I was grooming was over the 10" mark. So, I actually asked the judges to wick my Poodle, then another groomer thought she had a toy poodle & they wicked her Poodle & it was in the mini size. Then for some reason the judges decided to measure the Poodles in the whole class of every level. Turns out they disqualified 5 poodles for being over 15" & therefore could not be used in the "toy/mini" class.

Go & have a good time at the UKC show but go & show you have nothing to loose.