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Old 10-21-2012, 05:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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And the fact that this is my second time attempting to post doesn't help.

We got Georgia knowing she might be a little stubborn and we were right on with that. My husband is currently finding someone to help us with training.

My husband is deployed so it's just me, my 10 month old baby girl, Georgia (5 1/2 months) and my shih-tzu Isabel (7 years).

1) We don't have a fence yet for our yard so I hook her up for short amounts of time to go potty on a 25ft cable in the yard. If she is enjoying herself I will let her stay out there as the weather has been amazing. My problem is that many times she will bark non stop while she is out there. Our schedule is crunched in the morning. I'm nursing the baby while Georgia barks her head off at the little kids with their parents walking to the bus stop. If I don't put her out right away she will pee in her kennel.... She barks at other dogs she hears and if someone passes the house walking or running in the neighborhood she barks barks barks. Once she starts, she doesn't stop....even if I go out there and stand with her. I worry that 7:30-8:00 is too early for neighbors to be dealing with barking, yet that's what time I take her out...NOOOO later.

2) She is torturing Isabel barking and nipping at her. SHe's always in her face and Isabel is fed up. So am I. I know it's just the puppy in her but is there anything I can do?

3) She barks if I go upstairs. This is not good if I want to clean upstairs while the baby naps. She'll end up waking her. (Same goes for if she is barking outside when the baby is napping).

4)When I go to get her in off the cable, she jumps around so wildly I can't get my hands on her. It's quite embarrassing and frustrating. I can tell her to sit but that only lasts about a second!!

Is there anything I can do to help resolve these issues? She's sweet but very very stubborn. We have played with the idea of a shock/spray collar but I do not currently know if these are accepted forms of correction. I realize there are other areas where it's just going to take me working with her. I am really just bogged down with living life while my husband is deployed and honestly can't think straight so that's why I'm asking you guys for suggestions. Thanks!
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Old 10-21-2012, 06:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It sounds like she is bored. High energy poodles need a LOT of stimulation and play time - and training. Someone else has a post about their horrible poodle that turned around in a few days of intensive attention and training. I get that you don't have a lot of time to train the puppy, but can you manage a few minutes a few times a day to practice sit, shush, and off? You may feel like a human feed bag, between the puppy treats and the baby, but a few days of giving the dog an opportunity to get rewards for doing the right thing might pay off. There is a lot of helpful advice in general training and obedience, and you might check you tube for training how to's that might be helpful and easy enough to follow (I found some of them really confusing...).

This will pass - and it is okay to crate the puppy or shut her in the kitchen or bathroom behind a baby gate (I'd vote no on the kitchen from a pure inquisitive destruction stand)...

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Puppies dont want to be alone. Dogs are just wolves with some artificial selection applied, so think about if a wolf pup finds itself alone for whatever reason. What are its chances for survival? Not good. So dog/wolf pups are programmed by eons of evolution to want company, and to make a huge fuss to get noticed by mom if they dont have it. The barking in the yard and the barking when you go upstairs are pretty much the same problem; the pup wants to be near you.

When you go out to get her she jumps around because she is really upset about being alone in an open space (she feels like a sitting duck for a predator) and is really happy to see you. Try walking her on a leash instead of leaving her on the cable. Start obedience training with her (practice every day) and that will help establish that you are the boss and make her feel more secure.

As she becomes more secure, hopefully she will relax with Isabel.
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thinking about it, I put a 6 ft leash looped around my waist and clipped Spike to the end of it and kept him absolutely, literally, attached to me for a while. He was probably 4-5 months old, and I did it again at about 8 months. I'll do it again if needed, and I do it when I need to know where he is, what he is doing, and I need him to be quiet. It's not "easy" to go through your day with a puppy attached to you, but it's a lot easier than dealing with the noise and mess of one that's running his or her own show!.

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She doesn't really sound stubborn to me, just the usual baby poodle personality The fact that she does sit at all for you outside with all the excitement and stimulation around her is a good thing, at only 5 months old. My dogs LOVE kids so they act the same way, kids are the ultimate excitement for them. It sounds like you have your hands really, really full, and I have to say the worst is yet to come with Georgia because she's not in the poodle teenaged years yet, and your baby is going to be walking soon so you will be even busier. So this is a good time to come up with a plan! First of all, I know what you are going through because I just went through it too. You didn't mention how much exercise Georgia gets but my dogs are the same; first thing in the morning I can hardly MOVE when I go to let them out because they are so overexcited they are rushing around wrestling, growling, jostling each other out of the way for my attention...basically out of their minds with excitement. Don't get mad at me, but I think you should ask yourself if you really have the time right now for Georgia? I was a single mom too and it's hard! Even though for you it's temporary, you are still dealing with it all now. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with if you think it would be better if Georgia was re-homed; if so, you could make sure it was a really, really, really good home. But if you DO want to keep her, I think that it can be done if you make up a game plan. Of course you know your situation best, but I would make up a plan like, first thing in the morning, can you stumble your way out of bed, put the baby in a stroller and walk Georgia to wear off some of that energy? (That's what I do, ha,ha--at 5 a.m.! I've gotten used to it and it works for me) I would also buy lots of super-fun chewy toys and squeaky balls so you can whip something fresh out to give her something to do while you are busy upstairs for a couple of minutes (I rotate mine so I can pull out something they haven't seen periodically). Can you do puppy obedience classes? That will go a long way to helping you with her, but the effects won't be immediate. But one of the biggest helps right NOW would be puppy daycare if you can do that. If not that, is there a friend/neighbour or relative that can help you with Georgia, walking her or taking her for play sessions while your baby is sleeping? It will give you a break and wear off some of Georgia's energy. I wish you the best! p.s I wouldn't use any of those collars you mentioned, she's too young and sensitive.
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Do you have a carrier for your 10 month old? If not, I would highly recommend a soft-structured carrier such as a Beco or an Ergo to carry your infant on your back while you take the puppy out for walks. Your hands will be free to deal with the leash and treats so that you can do some training. Babies love riding in the backpack and being outdoors so it should end up being a really pleasant time for all of you.

Develop a schedule so that you have designated play/exercise time and brushing time (important to get your pup used to grooming and touch on belly, face, paws, etc.) built into your poodles days. Poodles thrive on routines just like babies so the more consistency you can have in your schedule, the better.

I don't think the tying out is going to work for your poodle puppy. If you want that to be an option for the occasional need to have him safely outdoors with you while youre working in the yard, or playing with the baby for example, then you'll need to spend some time playing with the puupy while tied out so it isn't always a negative association. That's going to take some time to change the association he already has of being left alone.

Really, if you don't have a fence you'll need to walk him for a substantial distance each day and then be prepared to go out on frequent potty trips on the leash, too. It isn't going to be easy but it can get better with effort andconsistency. Hang in there and good luck!
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Abby is almost 7 months old. I go through the same things! I have a 15 month old (he was 11 months old when Abby came home) and a 6 year old and Trina, a 7 year old toy poodle. First off, separate Isabel & Georgia. Abby will go crazy with excitement if her and Trina are left in the same room. I love my son but he is fine in the crib for a couple minutes while I take Abby out and make sure she goes potty. Immediately, I fix her food to keep her occupied while I take care of the baby. It's that or wake up before the baby. There is nothing wrong with crating Georgia while you are doing something. If you can't watch Georgia, crate her. Believe me, it takes a ton of stress off. When my son lays down for his nap, Abby goes to the crate. It becomes break time for everyone and is very welcome. Do you take her for walks? I couldn't imagine raising a spoo pup without a fence! But to be honest, I don't leave Abby out by herself even though we have one. While she is finishing up going potty, she is already spotting something to get into. It's a ton of work and is overwhelming sometimes. You just gotta try to keep her from getting bored and some type of schedule. Abby's world changed when school started back up. She thrives on the schedule! Good Luck!
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Wow a puppy and a baby and your husband is deployed- that is a lot for anyone to deal with on their own. I guess all the older kids and teenagers are in school now but maybe you can find one that is home schooled that you can pay a small amount of money to walk the puppy in the morning or play with the puppy - possibly when the kids get off the bus you could have one of them come and take her for a walk. Or you could say "mothers helper" and they could entertain the baby while you walk the puppy. Does the military offer any help? Kids would love a job like that- it might be hard money-wise but you need another set of hands.

I agree with those who said you need a plan and some sort of solution- you can't continue like this - it's too hard. The barking collar might traumatize her and change her personality into a fearful type dog so don't use that.

I also agree the poodle doesn't sound particularly stubborn, just a typical puppy. And most older dogs get annoyed when a puppy comes home- puppies are annoying! They eventually learn when the older dogs correct them to stop, but it takes awhile. Their are such goofs with other dogs trying to get them to play.

Good luck and let us know if you were able to use any of these suggestions.
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I have a tie out for my dogs too, though they're never really out on it unsupervised for more than 10 minutes. If I do hear them barking, I bring them in immediately, since I don't allow barking unless someone is entering the yard while my dogs are in it. I think 7 months is a bit young to be leaving her out on a tie unsupervised, even though Cairo is over a year now, I still supervise him when it's out and have since he was 3 months old (wow has it been that long already?)
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I don't have a child, but i think puppies takes as much time to handle as babies, so think of it as having 2 babies to take care of now.

If it was me, i wouldn't put them both together as puppies don't know boundaries yet, pen the pup in a room or crate her if you want to have your break time. Time out for everyone. At first you will have to tolerate the barking noise, but don't give in, after a while, she will understand that it's rest time.

I bought my pup without knowing how much it will affect my lifestyle. Must get home in time to feed, must clean up for him, must bring him for training and walks, else must play with him until he's tired enough to lie down to rest.

"A Tired dog is a Happy Dog, and a Happy Owner too"

Especially puppies they only know 3 things, play, eat, nap
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