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Old 09-18-2012, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First of all, Lucy and I are ok physically. I think she is even fine mentally, but I am a complete wreck right now.
We were attacked (well Lucy was attacked, I was just the useless, helpless human holding on to her).This afternoon we were about to finish our walk, 5 or 6 blocks from home, 2 pit mix and a rotty were coming down the block toward us. My first thought was uh-oh, Sugarfoot's and Miles' attacks came to mind. I looked for a house with a fence, as our luck has it, most of the near by houses were with open yards. As we reached one house, I couldn't get the gate to open, at that moment it was already too late as the three had us surrounded with straight forward attack mode. I had my walking stick in my free hand, so I used it to hit them, I kicked them to no avail, with three against one, we just didn't stand a chance. I didn't want to let go of her either so I started screaming like a little girl (the people that came to help later told me they thought a little girl was being attacked), for what seemed like forever later, two men came and pulled the dogs away (and I was still screaming by the way, I freaked out big time). They were not the owners, just good samaritans trying to help. At this time Lucy was bleeding from somewhere I couldn't immediately tell because of her black hair, I also got to look at the perps. It was a large, brown pit mix, a grey baby pit (with blue eyes as I remember he was still staring at me intensely) and a large, black rotty (or mix). I remembered someome called the police, then the owners came, one grabbed the baby pit and the rotty, the other one grabbed the pit mix, and TOOK OFF. I was yelling at the top of my lungs for them not to leave, but of course they left. This couple of nice father-daughter took us into their yard, and the police came. They told me they can't make a report because it was a dog-on-dog attack, that I was not hurt. The most they can do is to give a summon to the owner of the dogs. REALLY??? Like they will stick around for a ticket. One of the cops even told me I should be clear when I called 911 and mentioned I wasn't hurt (I didn't make the call). Then they LEFT. No one knows where those dogs came from and who they belong to. Matter of fact the past year we walked the same streets everyday, twice a day, never seen the owners nor the dogs before.
I called DH and got him out of work to rush us to the vet. Thank God Lucy only suffered little injuries. She has a punctured wound at the back of her right hind leg, a big scratch near her nose and bleeding nails (the vet didn't know how she got that). She got bandaged up and had a penicillin shot, with 7 days of Keflex 500 mg, and baby aspirin.
Right now as I write this, she has had her dinner and is sleeping somewhat peacefully. I guess and hope she has escape this unscathered, as she was playing with the vet tech and curiously investigating the exam room like nothing happened, even the vet joked that she should change her name to "Nosy". As for me, I am all sored, having a ginormous headache and mad at myself. We shouldn't have taken that particular street, I wanted to walk longer to make up for not walking later due to the imminent storm that is hitting our area.
I remember reading Sugarfoot's and Miles' attacks and reading up on all the suggestions, I thought I knew my neighborhood, I thought I knew what to do when they needed to be done, I practiced how to use my walking stick (per countryboy's suggestion), but NOTHING prepares you for this kind of nightmare. Maybe petitpie's suggestion was most useful, "Walk with a "Guard". "
Since joining the forum, I had asked a ton of questions but never offer an answer as I know very little about poodles, dogs in general, as I am still learning. I just wanted to share this unfortunate incident with the poodle lovers here. Please send healing thoughts our way.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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All these stories are scaring me big time! That's why I don't walk my dogs in the neighborhoods anymore :( I'm SO sorry this happened to you! Is there a walking trail nearby?
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Oh no! I am so sorry. Territorial animals such as those should NOT be roaming. :( It is horrible that you don't know where they came from. I mean, they must live nearby if they were able to come and get the dogs relatively quickly. Three of them? Eek. I don't know how to even recommend protecting yourself from that kind of attack. Get well soon, pup.
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So sorry to hear you experienced this. As a glass half full type of person, by having the walking stick and using it and your voice you did a good job against 3 attacking dogs. Unbelieveable that the police say they only give a warning. Glad you and Lucy are home and safe.
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So sorry about the incident and glad you and Lucy were not badly hurt.
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I wonder if you called the city where you live and asked bylaw enforcement what they could do, if there could possibly be some action taken there? I work for a city and my bylaw enforcement department is very diligent about this type of thing. Write down all your recollections of the dogs and owners and their vehicles, I'm sure they could be found. A pit with blue eyes is pretty distinctive in itself. Here, bylaw enforcement would immediately run a search for dog licenses in that area and match up dogs with licenses, and then go visit the owners, ask to see the dogs (to look for any evidence of a fight) and take statements. A search would be done of those addresses for previous complaints. At LEAST there would be a file started, because since this pack attacked Lucy, you can bet they've attacked other dogs; it's rare to have that much confidence on the first attack. Here, if a dog is deemed to be aggressive, the owner has to pay $1000 for the license and construct an enclosure to the city's satisfaction (with a locking mechanism that cannot be released without a key), and the dog has to be leashed and muzzled at all times when not in the enclosure or the owner's house. As well, if the dog reoffends, the situation is treated very seriously; one was just put down this week and a court injunction was sought to make the owner pay a $5000 penalty. Sad, but someone needs to take charge of these sorts of situations because it's infringing on your freedom to walk Lucy on public property.
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As for me, I am all sored, having a ginormous headache and mad at myself. We shouldn't have taken that particular street, I wanted to walk longer to make up for not walking later due to the imminent storm that is hitting our area.
I remember reading Sugarfoot's and Miles' attacks and reading up on all the suggestions, I thought I knew my neighborhood, I thought I knew what to do when they needed to be done, I practiced how to use my walking stick (per countryboy's suggestion), but NOTHING prepares you for this kind of nightmare. Maybe petitpie's suggestion was most useful, "Walk with a "Guard". "
Since joining the forum, I had asked a ton of questions but never offer an answer as I know very little about poodles, dogs in general, as I am still learning. I just wanted to share this unfortunate incident with the poodle lovers here. Please send healing thoughts our way.
Ouch! Healing thots for sure, hon...

But I'm not sure u should be mad at yourself. With no practice, u and Lucy have coped with a 'pack' attack that no amount of weaponry would have prevented. Between yr stick and feet, and Lucy's speed, little damage was done. I think u and Lucy deserve a great big pat on the back . . . a belly rub . . and probably a glass of wine...

And I agree with p/p's suggestion too. Walk with a friend. But still... a pack attack is a whirling, snarling, snapping ball of fur. Hard to even distinguish the different dogs... let alone actually single one out to repel them with a stick. Even with a friend. :(

Hugs to both of u. Well done, girls!
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Three against one? You were not helpless or useless - you probably saved her life. Lucy had no chance of surviving a fight like that. No more injuries than she had, I think you did a terrific job.

Good job! I hope you both recover quickly and completly!

I think it's time to consider a slightly more lethal walking stick, though.
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Aww, I'm so sorry that happened! Dog attacks are so scary. I'm very glad y'all weren't seriously hurt. That situation could have easily turned very ugly very fast.

One suggestion for next time...don't scream. (i know, so hard!) Screaming amps a dog up more and seems to get their prey drive into high gear. Think about when you talk to your pup in a high, squeaky voice...it makes them jump around and get silly and excited. Same thing happens to an aggressive dog when you scream, except for happy excited it's aggressive. Sometimes a short, sharp "HEY!!" will break their focus, although it sounds like those three were pretty zoned in on y'all.

I've all but stopped walking in the neighborhood...I have 5 dogs to walk and keep an eye on, and while I do know most of the dogs around here and have successfully deterred several from attacking my kids, I never know when a new one will show up or somebody will suddenly get territorial. The rest of my family takes Sam, Pepper, and Dusty on their various walks 1-2 at a time and I take the poodles to the park after work for a good run. Usually there are very few people/dogs, as we go early, so the boys get to play ball without worrying about being attacked.
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From one who's been there, you have my sympathy and healing thoughts!

It actually sounds like you defended yourself pretty well with your walking stick, three on one with two of them large, and your dog only got scrapes. Did you poke at them, or try to whack downwards while keeping Lucy behind you, or just hold the stick as kind of a barrier, or what? Very smart of you to try to head for a yard. Another suggestion I read on some site was, if pursued in a suburban neighborhood-type place, to find someone's pickup truck in their driveway and put your dog in its bed. Or yourself, I suppose! I'd never thought of that before, and that trick has now joined my repertoire!

It just burns me up that the "authorities" wouldn't do anything about the incident. What will it take, a child being mauled? Oh, yeah, thst's what they're waiting for, apparently.

Mom24, I totally hear you on the "don't scream" thing, and I knew that, too, when we were attacked. But that seems to one of those things that isn't under conscious control, at least once you reach a certain level of panic. I guess for some people that panic/scream threshold is lower than for others, but once it's crossed -- you scream! Maybe if we're ever attacked again (God forbid it!) I'll have more self-control, because I agree, the screaming has to escalate the situation.

Anyway, you did well under some horrible circumstances, and I send all my good hopes that Lucy will recover physically and mentally as well as Sugarfoot seems to have done. Get her out and around other (known, friendly!) dogs as soon as possible!

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