My silver mini poo Jupiter turned 14 years old yesterday. He had a special walk, gnawed on his bully stick for a while, and slept a lot.
Jupiter had some seizures at the end of July. For several hours after he couldn't walk properly at all. His new vet, who is young but good, is sure that this is a brain tumor. He wasn't at all optimistic about a medium-range prognosis. Jupiter is now on anti-seizure medication (in addition to his thyroxine) and has not had a seizure since. Every day now seems like a gift.
Jupiter seems to know that things are not completely right. He's gotten more cuddly than he had been (and he's never been a super cuddler). He also greets me at the door far more enthusiastically than he had been doing for quite a while.
I will admit that, soon after moving here, and seeing all the wildlife in this area and in my yard (far more rural than I have been accustomed to!) I took the recommendation of the first vet we went to, and allowed her to give both Juppie and Pericles the lepto vaccine. It was two days after this that Jupiter had the first seizure so I am (perhaps with my head in the sand) convinced that the seizure resulted from the vaccine and had nothing to do with a brain tumour. Needless to say neither of them had the second dose, and (for others reasons as well) we have switched vets. But I am beating myself up about this still.
He's now due for rabies. which is legally required (no titres permitted). I am waiting until the last moment to do this one. He did have his blood titred for distemper, etc. and he does not need a booster for these, thankfully.
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I totally understand your reluctance to vaccinate Jupiter. I am in Texas and rabies is also required by law, but when my border collie turned 12 I told my vet I was not going to vaccinate her any more because she's 12 years old and the chances she would get rabies was next to nothing compared to the chance the vaccination might cause her issues.
What are the legal consequences to you if you choose not to vaccinate Jupiter? In Texas, though it's required by law (every 3 years), the only thing that's withheld is your county tags. Tags are only important if your dog is likely to get lost, roam around, or bite someone. Since Franny in unlikely to do any of those things I will take the chance without tags.
Nico - my spoo - had a mild reaction to her rabies, and since she will be 10 when her next shot is due, I also broached the idea to my vet that I would not vaccinate her again. I wanted to know if they could still get vet care. He gave me the usual info of risks, but then he said he would never refuse treatment to animal because they were not vaccinated. We smiled, and I knew that meant I could make my choice, and he would still be their vet.
Long post -but do you think if you honestly told your vet your concerns for Jupiter, that he might be willing to concede and not vaccinate? If I were you, I would stand by my conviction that the lepto caused the seizures, and perhaps he would give you a pass?
We know our animals better than anyone and I totally agree with you that the lepto is likely the cause for the seizures, so let them know you feel that way.
If the legal consequences for not vaccinating are minor and you are willing to risk it, then make the choice and then see if your vet will still treat Jupiter.
Feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss anything else - or consider other options. Texas is probably very similar to NC.
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I hope Jupiter's seizure was just a one off and he can live the rest of his life in good health! I'm sorry you had to give him the Lepto vac, but sometimes it is a necessity that just can't be ignored. Considering the habitat you live in it was a choice you had to make, don't feel guilty about it!
Rabies vacs are also mandatory here and my Molly is unlucky enough to have had a skin reaction to it both times, so I can sympathize with anyone whose dogs have bad reactions to any vac!!!
I'm just glad Lepto is not necessary here and titers for other core vaccines (except rabies is rarely accepted!) will be done in the future!
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Happy birthday Jupiter. I hope you have good health and that nothing bad is happening inside your head.
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Happy Birthday, Jupiter! I'm so sorry about the seizure. I would not do the rabies vaccine. Assuming he's had the vaccine at least every 3 years, he's certainly good for the rest of his life. I'd ignore the law to keep him safe since his health is fragile.
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... What are the legal consequences to you if you choose not to vaccinate Jupiter? ...
I have a friend that ran in to some entirely unexpected legal consequences related to not getting the required rabies vaccination for her cat. It all worked out OK in the end, but it was very scary.
A friend of mine was taking care of another friend's cat. The owner of the cat went to another state to take care of her sister who had stage 4 cancer. The owner of the cat ended up being away for a couple of years. It got so that the question of who owned the cat was a little bit fuzzy. The one who was taking care of the cat was not an experienced pet owner, and it never occurred to her take the cat to a vet or to check on the status of the cat's rabies vaccination. Meanwhile, the original owner was out of state with a very sick sister and notices that she may have gotten from her vet were not exactly the on the top of her list of things to pay attention to. So the cat's rabies vaccination was a year or two overdue.
The cat was mostly an indoor cat, but occasionally went outside. On one of those outside trips at night, the cat was bitten by "an unknown animal." So my friend took the cat to the vet to check the wound. And that's when she found out that if a cat (or a dog) gets bitten by unknown animal, it is a reportable event. IOW the vet is required to notify local authorities. The local township authorities notified the vet and the owner/caretaker that the cat would have to be quarantined at a vet office for 6 months or euthanized. How would you like to have that choice????
Fortunately, the vet did a brilliant job of going to bat for this cat and the township officials were willing to listen to reason and apparently had some discretion. The vet pointed out that the cat had been previously vaccinated twice and that even though the vaccination was way overdue, the vet thought that the cat was still immune. The township officials agreed to a compromise. The cat could be quarantined in the owner/caretaker's home. The cat had to stay inside during the 6 month quarantine, and a final vet report and a final visit by township officials was required.
So in the end, the consequences were not too bad. But that experience made me want to make sure that my dogs' rabies vaccinations are on the right side of the law.
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I hope Jupiter enjoys his birthday and many more. There should be a waiver for senior animals, if there is a strong likelihood of an adverse effect and the animal is a house pet. Maybe I'm taking the threat of a 14 year old Poodle contracting rabies too lightly. I've never heard of anyone with a rabid dog other than Cujo.
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