There are plenty of purebred poodles that by the current show ideal are considered coarse or stocky. That doesn't mean they aren't pure. It doesn't take much to throw off a good breeding plan.
My 'fine' example is my family's first Spoo, Pepper. Now, I have gone on PoodlePedigree.com with his parents and looked through every single line, and to my astonishment, Pepper not only is pure, but he traces back to just about every single reknowned poodle breeder out of the England, Canada, and the US. I could rattle them off, but let's just say they were big names in the poodle world in their day, and some of them still are major players. Which is pretty funny when you take a look at my enormous (29", 85lb), sighthound chested, peglegged, wide eyed, doofy looking, greasy boy.
He came from a breeder who was quite elderly and I wonder if they were aiming for something that just didn't mesh with current trends or just possibly should have gotten out of the game a few generations earlier (which they did after his litter). In just about three generations, they'd turned several well-respected champion lines dating back to the 60's and beyond into... whatever this is.
But Pepper is now 9 years old, the first in what will probably be a long list of poodles in our family, since we're officially sold. We've gotten a second Spoo from rescue, and I have my mini girl from a reputable show breeder. Pepper might be a bit on the homely side and definitely stinkier than the average spoo, but he's my mom's heart dog, and we love him.
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Yes, I agree with MamaTiff, Darby and Leroy do look alike! I thought that long before this thread, I just noticed two very similar looking dogs in the avatars. : ) They're both cute!
I'm glad you say that you don't care and you love him either way. I once told a client who booked me for a Border Collie that her price would be higher than quoted because her dog wasn't what I was expecting. She understood and told me she thought she might have been a mix, and what did I think she was. She sounded very open minded and eager to hear my opinion. I said "Hmm, looks like a Chow mix." Her face dropped and she looked at her dog like it just bit her! "Oh, no...I don't like Chows!" ??? Hahaha The dog was a sweetie, in her teens and been with the mom since puppyhood. But the thought of her being part Chow was enough to make the mom cringe away from her!
And, Outwest is right, people really don't know what they're looking at. I had a very handsome Yellow Lab. The stocky, blocky English kind. You wouldn't believe how many people would ask me what he was (Labs are one of the MOST common and popular breeds, but people still had no clue), or tell me he was a beautiful Saint Bernard or Basset Hound or some other random thing! Hahaha So many people have asked what Lumi is. When I say Poodle then they often say "Mixed with what?" Hahahaha Reasons for her not being a Poodle include "too cute", and "her hair isn't curly". No wonder people don't want Poodles! They think they're trolls with 80s perms!
I think I was letting people get to my head. No one called him a mixed breed when I had him in the miami clip! I haven't sculpted his body hair to look like anything yet. Trying to grow it out from the 7F Miami. He needs more hair on his legs, especially his front ones and his chest. The hairs on his chest and going down his stomach are fine cotton-candy-like hair that mats just by me breathing on it. I am ready for this coat change to be over! I will be shaving his donut mustache to a German mustache and then a French mustache in November. By Dec he will have a clean poodle face