Names of dogs: Flower (5/28/2001), Princess Beatrice (4/1/2014), Miss Pia Maria (10/6/2014) Gracie pom/chi 7/7/05
Poodle Type: Blue and Apricot Phantom Toy, Cafe with white mismark Toy, Silver Toy
Location: NY the state
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After Flower lost her littermate sister at 13 1/2, she was out of sorts a bit lost without her constant companion, I did one thing I brought her along when I had to let her sister Cappi go. But in the days after Flower was even more quiet and, not to anthropomorphize, a bit sad. I didn't let her withdraw, I stuck her in the pen with Beatrice and with in a a few days or so they were playing. I think Flower's "grief" started long before her sister died but when her sister started slowly dying from cancer if that makes any sense.
I had Tina who was old and got Shotsie, Shotsie would take her outside bring her back in wake her up (she could not hear) for about 2 years, then I got Bella as I thought Tina was on her way out. She lived another 3 years. When she passed Shotsie really went down hill. She used to go and socialize with all my friends and sit on laps. After that she just stayed in her crate and never really came back and would not have anything to do with Bella. Never sleep with her or played with her, and 2 years passed, and them I lost her to a stupid neighbor, so it was 2 years and she never became her self prior to losing Tina.
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My current dogs have not lost a dog companion, but when the first two of my three cats passed there were definite changes. When Olivia, my oldest and a Persian passed on, the other two were very out of sorts with each other for months. They were sisters and apparently Olivia had been somewhat of a social buffer or "middle man" between them. Alex who was kittenish until she died clearly was very pesty in the ideas of her sister Jackie. They were litter mate sister Maine Coon cats. Jackie and Alex lived to know Lily and Peeves but the cats and dogs never got used to each other. Lily and Peeves were way too bouncy and boisterous for old lady cats. I kept them in separate areas of our house to spare the cats. Once Jackie crossed the bridge I sent Alex to my mom's so she would be the center of attention and have more company than we could give her at that point.
I don't think Jackie and Alex not being around made much of an impression on Lily and Peeves since they did not really ever have much to do with each other.
Lily AKC: CGC CD HIT CDX, RN RA RE RAE...RAE8 Multiple Rally High Combined, NA NAJ; APDT: RL-1; CPE: CL1-R, CL1-H, CL1-F, CL1-S, CL1
Peeves AKC: CGC BN RN RA
Javelin AKC: CGC RN (landed on Long Island July 10, 2015!) http://www.poodleforum.com/35-52-wee...s-javelin.html
Poodle Type: Pembroke Welsh Corgi, Standard Poodle
Location: Houston, TX
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I never saw any behavior that I thought was grieving with my Beagles or Corgi. But, when our Dash passed in May, Lola was a sad, sad dog. She moped around, and stayed under the desk. She was depressed. After about 3 weeks of that behavior, we went ahead and got another 3 year old Corgi. She bounced back to her normal outgoing self within a few days. They are inseparable now.
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I don't think you can call it grieving, but when our 15 year old female poodle died, our seven year old female Airedale waited for one day to pass. Then, she marched right into the old girl's crate and claimed it as her own. Prior to that day, she never entered that crate even if it was empty. So, maybe our Airedale thought one day of respect was enough??
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Thanks, everyone. Mia's bouncing back. On the first day, she looked around the house for him a couple of times. That night, she was awakened by a noise that sounded like him getting up off of the couch. She slept a lot for the first week or so, but by the second week she was looking at me like, "let's go have fun." It's been almost four weeks now. Her energy is back up to normal, but just the other day she stopped by one of his favorite sleep spots as if to ask where he is. She's definitely much happier with him out of the house, but she really took on the role of his big sister/mom and misses him, too. Honestly, I feel the same way she does about the whole situation.
"He sits in himself like an experienced oarsman sits in his boat, or any boat."
-- Franz Kafka
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I once had a mini who had an oops daughter (one puppy at a late age) We kept and loved her. Later her Mom became blind and later deaf. They would run together back to back with the daughter being the guide of the mother. One day the most important sense was lost. Her scent was gone. She curled up in a corner and whimpered. Sensory deprivation! I took the right path and put her down. Not without grief myself. The daughter would not eat. She was not responsive to our love. She became sick and quietly died one night. They were so close they could not be parted. I lost them both and I grieve still.
I can fly, Look!! I love my ball! I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious cult. ~Rita Rudner
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How very bittersweet Eric. I can understand your still grieving over that situation. That must have been so hard on you to lose them both like that.That reminds me of just a story on television where a boy bought a brother and sister coon hounds and they were together and close and when the brother was killed by a mountain lion the sister would not eat and would not respond to the boy who loved them so much and one day he found her laying next to the brothers grave and she died right there. And that was just a story. I guess they really do form attachments so close they grieve if one is gone out of their lives.
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I have seen two dogs grieve when they lost their dog companion.
Several years ago, a friend had 2 golden retrievers. When the older one died, the younger one went into a huge depression. She (the remaining golden) had always had a heart murmur, but for the first time, she started to show signs of active heart disease. A cardiologist confirmed that she had serious heart problems. When my friend came home from work, her golden would be up on a couch, but she wouldn't even get up. She would barely lift her head to acknowledge that her owner was home. Everything changed when my friend got a new puppy. The older dog started playing with the puppy and looking happy again. The symptoms of heart disease entirely disappeared.
Second case was my boy Bob. He was about 10 when my older poodle Sophie died. Bob was really depressed -- very sad and mopey. When I brought Cammie into the house -- an 8 week old puppy -- he was not happy for the first 2 or 3 days. But gradually, she won him over and started crawling all over him. That was exactly what he needed, and it pulled him right out of his depression.
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