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Old 01-11-2013, 08:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I would go with the homecooked, unless the liverpool is better than the Science Diet or Eukanuba. I have feed both in the past and do not think they are worth what they charge. My mpoo had horrible dental issues because of Eukanuba. She also had other issues my vet advised me were due to a kibble diet. My Angel was on Pedigree when I got her, but she now is on a prm diet. I can tell such a huge difference between her health of when I first brought her home and now. Her energy levels have grown and her coat is superb. We run three miles a day and she now has more than enough energy to do it and still have play time. She went from not hardly eating to eating with gusto!

I know that the foods especially the meats there might not be great for the raw feeding, but I would definitely do the home cooked. But do remember that dogs can handle foods that we could not.

Good luck with finding what is best for your baby.
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Thanks so much for the advice. I will try your recipe for sure. By the way--your poodle looks gorgeous! But is s/he really a toy? He looks like a standard.
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I would go with the homecooked, unless the liverpool is better than the Science Diet or Eukanuba. I have feed both in the past and do not think they are worth what they charge. My mpoo had horrible dental issues because of Eukanuba. She also had other issues my vet advised me were due to a kibble diet. My Angel was on Pedigree when I got her, but she now is on a prm diet. I can tell such a huge difference between her health of when I first brought her home and now. Her energy levels have grown and her coat is superb. We run three miles a day and she now has more than enough energy to do it and still have play time. She went from not hardly eating to eating with gusto!

I know that the foods especially the meats there might not be great for the raw feeding, but I would definitely do the home cooked. But do remember that dogs can handle foods that we could not.

Good luck with finding what is best for your baby.
I find the dog food much cheaper here than in Canada--but I have also noticed that they really really like the corn fillers too. Since corn is a staple food for humans, they really advertise the corn on the dog food--at least that is the impression that I get. I am not big on corn for my dog so I try to avoid it and really I found that he was doing very well on the Taste of the Wild grain free diet. He favours the water fowl and the fish, which makes me happy because I have the impression that poodles would thrive on waterfowl. heehee this stuff really is marketed to humans!

About raw--I am able to easily get good quality meats--but I worry about cross contamination from water. I also notice that they do not keep meats refrigerated in the same way that I am accustomed to at home. For example, the butcher often does not even have ice to keep the meat cool. I get the impression that they think the outside Winter air is cold enough--but in Canada we call this Summer. They also do not refrigerate eggs--which worries me some. AND-of course-we all know the rule about avoiding eating raw vegetables in countries where water may be contaminated. So I think the best route is "welldone" cooking.
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Thank you, yes he is a toy I take him to the conformation shows so he is in show coat, that's why he looks bigger in the pics he is 8 pounds including all that show hair lol.

In the cocked meat recipe I added salt back them, but I rarely do it now you can skip this.

I get your concern in how they handle the veggies and the meats, that's very normal around here, what you could do if you are worried is to freeze the meat for at least 24 hours to kill the bacteria and for the veggies wash them wit dishsoap or dip them in water wit a few drops of clorox or veggie cleaner (desifectante de verduras) you can search for it in pharmacies.

The eggs are not in the fridge because they are supposed to be fresh (most of the time they keep them like this only for a few days), when you buy them you can put them in the fridge.
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Well, I have an unfortunate update. My dog really liked the stew I cooked him, but last night he started vomiting all over the floor. He didnt eat again all day so I brought him to the vet in the afternoon. The vet thinks he may have a stomach infection and gave him an injection of antibiotics. I am supposed to bring him back tomorrow for another injection. He has also lost a kilo + since we got here at the beginning of December.

I, of course, got the obligatory DON"T GIVE YOUR DOG HUMAN FOOD lecture and, of course, the vet slammed the Pedigree food that I was giving him as low protein. He also said something that seemed off to me. Shocked that I feed Jasper 4 times a day, he said that he should only be fed once per day! I can't imagine my picky poodle eating just once per day. The amount of food that he would need to eat in that one sitting would cause him to vomit for sure.

How often should I be feeding?

He sold me a bag of Eukanuba and said 200grams once per day.
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Yeah, most of the vets are against natural foods, however you have to remember that kibble has only being for around 50 years only!! so it is impossible for a espieces to evolve in digesting that only in such short time , mostly when the poodle breed has being around since the years 1,500

Wit the cooked food did you gave a full meal, or did you add a few spoons to the pedigree?


The problem could be if this the first time the dog has tasted meat and ate a full bowl then the tummy can get upset since is used to digest kibble,the meat could be too rich for him mostly when pedigree is a kibble made wit poor protein, that would be like feeding a child a bowl of healthy salad wit salmon to a child that has only eated fast food and oreos in all his life.

That is why a transition should be done everytime a new food is introduced, no matter if is natural or processed (kibble)

Wish ingredients did you add in the stew?

If you added organs like liver sometimes it can be too rich for a dog that get its in a first time, the best is to add a really tiny piece like the size of a human nail and see how the tummy of the dog reacts, if is going well you can make the piece bigger in the next feeding and later do the same, the next the same, etc.. that way you make make progress .

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Ah! about your question in how many meals a day, it would depend in the dogs.

Some people believe is ok wit one a day, but this can be risky in large breeds like your dog since it can cause bloat, and in toy dogs (like mine) it can cause hypoglycemia.

For example I feed Pompadour two meals a day, if he only eats one time then in late at noon or very early in the next day he pukes vile since his tummy is empty.

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The cause of bloat--excess gas--can be prevented by offering a dog multiple smaller meals instead of one large daily meal and discouraging fast eating and "gulping" of air. Dogs predisposed to bloat should not exercise for at least an hour after eating.

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Some toy breeds (such as Chihuahuas, Yorkshire Terriers, Maltese, Toy Poodles and Pomeranian) are prone to hypoglycemia due to a metabolic disorder. If you have a toy breed dog, it is better to feed her 3 small meals a day to avoid hypoglycemia. Hypoglycemia in Dogs | Canine Hypoglycemia
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I gave it to him as a topper on top of the pedigree kibble. He REALLY liked it and kept asking for more. He had been eating it for 3 days before he puked it all over the floor. The amount of puke was substantial--like he had been saving up. The vomited food (gee this is a lot of gross info) looked pretty close coming out as it had going in. The kibble was still formed into little bone shapes etc. It was almost as though he had not been digesting anything for a couple of days.

Maybe my recipe was too much for him. I made a stew of beef chunks, potato, carrot, a bit of rice and a bit of lentils. There was a lot of broth.

At home he eats Taste of the Wild wet food as a topper so I did not anticipate this would be too rich for him.

Before I gave him the food he was pretty constipated, but after he started eating it he softened up--still formed but wet and soft. Then he firmed up to normal again.

As I said, the vet thought there was something going on in his gut. He got a second shot of antibiotic today and orders to give him only 50 grams of food. Jasper is satisfied with the small amount of kibble and is still generally disinterested in food--except for pork rinds--and he is COMPLETELY disinterested in drinking water. I even went to buy a fresh bottle of water to make sure that the last bottle wasn't off somehow and he still has no interest. When I hold the water up to his face he turns his nose away.

Not drinking water is very worrisome.
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Ah! about your question in how many meals a day, it would depend in the dogs.

Some people believe is ok wit one a day, but this can be risky in large breeds like your dog since it can cause bloat, and in toy dogs (like mine) it can cause hypoglycemia.

For example I feed Pompadour two meals a day, if he only eats one time then in late at noon or very early in the next day he pukes vile since his tummy is empty.
I think it is a certain kind of dog--not a dainty poodle--that can be on the once a day plan. A standard poodle is quite rare in Mexico so this vet can be excused for not knowing much about them--but I don't think it will be in our best interests to only feed once a day. As it is, he has lost 2 kilos in 2 months and I directly attribute that to the lower quality dog food. Of course, if he has a stomach infection, that would contribute too.

In general, I give Jasper about 4 small meals because he has been unable to handle eating a large amount at one time.

I have noticed one thing--at home he was satisfied with his food and the amount that I gave him. Here he is always looking for more and sniffing around the table when we are eating--something he never did at home. Obviously he is hungry. My last dog was a dalmation (passed away after 14 years) that required a low protein diet. It was the same thing---low protein meant she was hungry all the time even though she ate a lot of food.
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I gave it to him as a topper on top of the pedigree kibble. He REALLY liked it and kept asking for more. He had been eating it for 3 days before he puked it all over the floor. The amount of puke was substantial--like he had been saving up. The vomited food (gee this is a lot of gross info) looked pretty close coming out as it had going in. The kibble was still formed into little bone shapes etc. It was almost as though he had not been digesting anything for a couple of days.

Maybe my recipe was too much for him. I made a stew of beef chunks, potato, carrot, a bit of rice and a bit of lentils. There was a lot of broth.

At home he eats Taste of the Wild wet food as a topper so I did not anticipate this would be too rich for him.

Before I gave him the food he was pretty constipated, but after he started eating it he softened up--still formed but wet and soft. Then he firmed up to normal again.

As I said, the vet thought there was something going on in his gut. He got a second shot of antibiotic today and orders to give him only 50 grams of food. Jasper is satisfied with the small amount of kibble and is still generally disinterested in food--except for pork rinds--and he is COMPLETELY disinterested in drinking water. I even went to buy a fresh bottle of water to make sure that the last bottle wasn't off somehow and he still has no interest. When I hold the water up to his face he turns his nose away.

Not drinking water is very worrisome.
So he ate rich foods before? I see, then is strange, mostly if he is not interested in drinking.

Try to add a bit of warm water to his kibble to see if he drinks it.

One thing I do at emergencies when my dog refuses to eat or drink is to give gatoraid mixed wit a bit of water using a syringe in the mouth (take the needle off) , unlike Canada and the US, you can buy a syringe in any drugstore/ pharmacy, as long as you have money in hand no one will refuse to sell you one.

Maybe he has worms? here in latin america is very easy for a dog to catch parasites because of rain puddles, feral dogs, rodents, birds, gargabe etc..
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