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Old 09-01-2010, 11:33 AM   #81 (permalink)
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I see you are residing in the same province in Canada that I am (Que.)
where do you live ?

Reds are beautiful and as I said many posts ago I admire the red breeders for the hard job they have ahead of them breeding reds.. It is not a color that is easy to deal with as the gene pool is small and the red breeders have to be even more careful that the black white breeders , since we have a much wider variety and pedigrees to choose form than the red breeders do.

I signed the FCI petition for reds years ago when they were trying and successfuly have to get the reds accepted as part of FCI. I am glad they did.

I will post photos here of the journal I keep which is scotch taped to my wall keeping tabs on all puppies from weight to when they open their eyes, deworming schedule etc.
Yes we are! We are located in the northern region of lanaudiere Quebec!

I look forward to watching your puppers grow up on here
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I also like minis alot..


Now that I see how wonderful miniatures are I asked my handler if she will be willing to transfer Salsa to my ownership with CKC papers and all and she agreed.

I will be breeding Salsa sometime in end of October to a beautiful miniature stud dog (black) who is now being shown/campaigned out west and will be having her puppies to raise sometime this winter.



My love will still be the standards but minis are just as wonderful..that is if they are sound and have great temperaments and disposition as does my girl Salsa.
Oh wow, whitepoodles! Minis from you sounds like a dream!! I will be waiting with baited breath to see those babies. As a devotee of the mini, I am super psyched you're going to be putting your talents and energies to use on your very own line (is that the correct term?) of them. Woohoo! Good things coming this fall for sure!
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I never thought I would even want to own let alone breed miniatures.
My girl Salsa changed all this for me when I had the pleasure to get her from Jenn and teach her the ropes, handling classes grow her coat and live with her while my handler (who owns her) was busy campaigning my boy Cole.

After 2 months of Salsa living with George me and the dogs we both fell for her and I asked my handler to leave her with me.. I was so upset at the prospect of Salsa leaving our home to be bred by Jenn that I promissed Jenn I will whelp and raise the puppies at no expense to her and I did.

I have beautiful photos of the 6 pups 3 boys and 3 girls (whites and blacks) that Salsa produced in her first litter and I never looked back..

It was such a pleasure raising these 6 pups that I had decided ofcourse with Jenn's agreement to breed Salsa for her 2nd and last litter and keep a puppy bitch out of her to start my line with in future.

So Salsa's puppies this time will be mine since she will be transfered to my ownership by Jenn. She is Optigen "A" and has a wonderful disposition.. She rules our house and the standards bow to her if you can believe that.. which is true. She is also very posessive of me and has to come with me to the washroom and anywhere else I go.. She is a velcro dog.

When I whelped her litter (my first mini litter) I was so scared, I didnt know what weight they pups should be at on average.. I just said, Ok.. take a chance and dont be scared and just whelp them as you would standards..

I had one born at 5 ounces and the rest at 7-8 and I supplemented the smallest puppy and she made it.. She is now owned by a very good friend of mine who lost their standard poodle whom they purchased from me at 14 years old

I will post some photos of Salsa waiting to deliver her puppies and also of her puppies. There is also a photo of Salsa lying on the carpet taken 2 days prior to whelping her pups. The black boy's head .. he is gorgeous and he was pick of litter.

I also want to mention that Salsa has 2 champions from her first litter who finished with multiple group placement wins from the junior puppy class and the male which Jenn picked out of the litter is now # 2 miniature poodle in Canada and is only 9 months old.. He is stunningly beautiful. There is also a cream bitch who is now starting her show career so there will be 4 puppies finished from Salsa's first litter. I am very proud of her and so is my handler Jenn.

Salsa's son Atom is now being campaigned by my handler(his breeder) Jenn in Canada.

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What a stunning little boy that black is!!! Mom was gimongous!! LOL You must be so proud of the what you accomplished with them.
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Thank you. Yes I am proud of what they have accomplished.

I only raised and socialized them preparing them for the world and Jenn came to pick up the puppies when they were 9 weeks old and sold them to her clients, but kept the boy, she named Atom Her kennel prefix is DENOTE and she registered him as Denote Radioactive, hence lolol "Atom".

He is a darling, you should see him strutt his stuff in the ring and I have to admit any time that my Onyx was in the ring for puppy group, Atom would beat him..

LOL I dont mind loosing to a great dog and Atom is a beautiful dog.

Yes Salsa was HUGE but popped them out like a pro and finished in 2 hours 6 fat rolly pollies but all insize to date.
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Thank you. Yes I am proud of what they have accomplished.

I only raised and socialized them preparing them for the world and Jenn came to pick up the puppies when they were 9 weeks old and sold them to her clients, but kept the boy, she named Atom Her kennel prefix is DENOTE and she registered him as Denote Radioactive, hence lolol "Atom".

He is a darling, you should see him strutt his stuff in the ring and I have to admit any time that my Onyx was in the ring for puppy group, Atom would beat him..

LOL I dont mind loosing to a great dog and Atom is a beautiful dog.


Yes Salsa was HUGE but popped them out like a pro and finished in 2 hours 6 fat rolly pollies but all insize to date.

You are much too humble. You did the most challenging and demanding part of having pups. Kudos to you. I've yet to whelp my own litter; and although I have read much and followed puppy whelping here, I still feel a bit nervous about when the day finally comes (next spring.) Thank goodness for my sister, Dianne, who has whelped many a litter of pups. I see it as a full time job until they are placed in their new, forever homes.
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You are much too humble. You did the most challenging and demanding part of having pups. Kudos to you. I've yet to whelp my own litter; and although I have read much and followed puppy whelping here, I still feel a bit nervous about when the day finally comes (next spring.) Thank goodness for my sister, Dianne, who has whelped many a litter of pups. I see it as a full time job until they are placed in their new, forever homes.
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Spoospirit:

Thank you.

I LOVE whelping and raising them. It is my passion. Like to see the nice results at the end of the job.

Even with my standards I am so worried about socialization and making sure that the puppy buyers are happy with them. I just dread a phone call to tell me otherwise, so I do my best to make sure they are properly raised/socialized.

Yes it does take a tremendous amount of work if one is to do it by the book, but it is easy when you love what you do.

I know what you mean by being scared , I was too, but my dad was an obs/gyn surgeon and he gave me a few tips, to include a great sthetoscope which I still own and an autclave.

I also had a friend an elderly lady who was a midwife in Australia and she was also a Dachsie breeder . She came to my house with my very first litter and showed me how it is done.. I had a litter of 12 puppies and I was frantic to say the least.. but I managed. The most important thing is to be level headed and not panic.

Fortunatley for you you have Dianne to help you and this will make things infinitely more relaxed and easier.

What colors are you breeding next spring?

You would love raising puppies. It is a wonderful experience and just from reading your numerous posts here you will make an exceptional breeder.

There is an excellent book which I have read and re read and it is a wealth of information about breeding raising and socializing puppies. I refer to it quite often even now after 16 years.

Canine Reproduction , A Breeder's Guide by Phyllis A. Holst, Ms. DVM.

Another great one is: Breeding A Litter, the Complete Book of Prenatal and Postnatal Care, by Beth J. Finder Harris. (Both are hard cover) Excellent.
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I never thought I would even want to own let alone breed miniatures.
My girl Salsa changed all this for me when I had the pleasure to get her from Jenn and teach her the ropes, handling classes grow her coat and live with her while my handler (who owns her) was busy campaigning my boy Cole.

After 2 months of Salsa living with George me and the dogs we both fell for her and I asked my handler to leave her with me.. I was so upset at the prospect of Salsa leaving our home to be bred by Jenn that I promissed Jenn I will whelp and raise the puppies at no expense to her and I did.

I have beautiful photos of the 6 pups 3 boys and 3 girls (whites and blacks) that Salsa produced in her first litter and I never looked back..

It was such a pleasure raising these 6 pups that I had decided ofcourse with Jenn's agreement to breed Salsa for her 2nd and last litter and keep a puppy bitch out of her to start my line with in future.

So Salsa's puppies this time will be mine since she will be transfered to my ownership by Jenn. She is Optigen "A" and has a wonderful disposition.. She rules our house and the standards bow to her if you can believe that.. which is true. She is also very posessive of me and has to come with me to the washroom and anywhere else I go.. She is a velcro dog.

When I whelped her litter (my first mini litter) I was so scared, I didnt know what weight they pups should be at on average.. I just said, Ok.. take a chance and dont be scared and just whelp them as you would standards..

I had one born at 5 ounces and the rest at 7-8 and I supplemented the smallest puppy and she made it.. She is now owned by a very good friend of mine who lost their standard poodle whom they purchased from me at 14 years old

I will post some photos of Salsa waiting to deliver her puppies and also of her puppies. There is also a photo of Salsa lying on the carpet taken 2 days prior to whelping her pups. The black boy's head .. he is gorgeous and he was pick of litter.

I also want to mention that Salsa has 2 champions from her first litter who finished with multiple group placement wins from the junior puppy class and the male which Jenn picked out of the litter is now # 2 miniature poodle in Canada and is only 9 months old.. He is stunningly beautiful. There is also a cream bitch who is now starting her show career so there will be 4 puppies finished from Salsa's first litter. I am very proud of her and so is my handler Jenn.

Salsa's son Atom is now being campaigned by my handler(his breeder) Jenn in Canada.

Boy is this long.. Sorry !!
whitepoodles: I soaked up every word you wrote with great relish! I just adore your passion for poodles! I was thrilled to see the pictures. I love how Salsa charmed you and the whole story of how you fell in love with her. Bless her beautiful soul for being such a great ambassador for the variety and having you join forces with her to bring more wonderful minis into the world. I am so ga-ga for minis that it truly thrills me to hear all about your involvement with them. I cannot imagine being responsible for precious minipoo pups weighing a few ounces. I was intimidated by Chagall weighing 4 lb. 2 oz. as a pup when we brought him home. I think you must have a wonderfully fulfilling life because you truly are doing something you love and excel at. I'm just so glad minipoos fit into that equation! Thanks so much for telling the Salsa story. It is just wonderful! I sure wish I lived closer to you (I'm in New Jersey), I'd be sitting on your doorstep day and night waiting to catch a glimpse of your poodles.
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Thank you. You are too kind.

Some of the minis I was exposed to really turned me off to owning, breeding and raising them..... The ones I came in contact with were either too yappy, barky or skittish and way too hyper or way too shy...

When I had the pleasure to meet Salsa and have her live with me in my house for the 2 months taking care of her coat etc... she completely changed my perception about this variety, moreover once I had her puppies and saw how wonderful it is to raise a litter of minis,and seeing how wonderfully they turned out temperament wise, it is only then I asked my handler if she would not mind allowing me to breed a litter out of Salsa , keep a girl for myself and embark on a qualitly miniature breeding program.

Jenn said yes and not only did she agree to my breeding Salsa she also said , she will transfer Salsa's CKC registration papers to my ownership.

I offered to co own the girl I will be keeping out of Salsa's 2nd and last litter with Jenn, and She will be showing her next year.

I am so looking forward to it.
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Thank you. You are too kind.

Some of the minis I was exposed to really turned me off to owning, breeding and raising them..... The ones I came in contact with were either too yappy, barky or skittish and way too hyper or way too shy...

When I had the pleasure to meet Salsa and have her live with me in my house for the 2 months taking care of her coat etc... she completely changed my perception about this variety, moreover once I had her puppies and saw how wonderful it is to raise a litter of minis,and seeing how wonderfully they turned out temperament wise, it is only then I asked my handler if she would not mind allowing me to breed a litter out of Salsa , keep a girl for myself and embark on a qualitly miniature breeding program.

Jenn said yes and not only did she agree to my breeding Salsa she also said , she will transfer Salsa's CKC registration papers to my ownership.

I offered to co own the girl I will be keeping out of Salsa's 2nd and last litter with Jenn, and She will be showing her next year.

I am so looking forward to it.

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I know others who have had the same impression of minis you did originally; yappy, hyper, etc. I even recall meeting some when I was kid that seemed downright possessed. I guess we owe a huge thanks to quality breeders who worked to adjust the temperament over the years to what I now think is more prevalent; jaunty, active, friendly dogs. I was so fortunate over the past 10 years to meet some really well-balanced lovely minis and have access to their breeder when I was ready to add a poodle to our lives. I owe her everything for making my sweet, friendly little boy possible. Truth be told, when I first brought Chagall to our vet for his puppy wellness exam, I got the strong sense he was a "no poodle" guy. In fact, he told me outright, "He [Chagall] is very friendly now, you'll be lucky if he stays that way." Well, he's come to eat his words! Not only is Chagall friendly to every person he sees, he's one of the vet's dog's bet buddies, and she's an Italian Mastiff "pup" of 95 lbs.!! As for the yappy thing, Chagall only goes all barky when squirrels, robins or deer invade "his" property while he's looking out the window. When he's outside, he just chases them, without making a sound.
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