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bigredpoodle · 11-12-2009, 07:38 AM

Well then so they have been taking our money .... Hmm interesting. So we are back to looking at pedigrees..Which i do as well the color test is pretty much a joke from what you are saying saves me almost 80 per dog HA HA !!!

roxy25 · 11-12-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bigredpoodle

Well then so they have been taking our money .... Hmm interesting. So we are back to looking at pedigrees..Which i do as well the color test is pretty much a joke from what you are saying saves me almost 80 per dog HA HA !!!

You know what when I first started to learn about red I was so CONFUSED into what people where talking about with the fading gene being D allele. Because the Dilution gene is present in a lot of breeds that do not fade. Since I was into apbt , this breed comes in Blue a lot and they are called dilutes and most likely if you tested them they would be dd. Since more experience people where telling me about the fading gene being d I never questioned them. It never really made since to me lol Cbrand also made me question it even more so this is why I emailed Vetgen.

roxy25 · 11-12-2009, 07:55 AM

Now my mind got to thinking maybe if your dog tested out dd this means a liver nose ? or the dogs nose will end up liver and not completely black ?

I have seen poodles noses change colors. In apbt there are two types of reds. One is a red red like how your red poodles are and one is a Red nose. I wonder if the red nose apbt would test out as dd since I think they area a dilute also ( I am not sure )

red apbt with black points
http://www.amberlitekennels.com/bogan.html ( this color is hard to come by in apbt)

red nose apbt

http://www.caragankennel.com/females.html

bigredpoodle · 11-12-2009, 07:59 AM

I wonder ?
I am concerned about brown being present so I will still test for that but save myself the DD test. Love the pics of the Pitties .. Thanks for sharing

bigredpoodle · 11-12-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by roxy25

Now my mind got to thinking maybe if your dog tested out dd this means a liver nose ? or the dogs nose will end up liver and not completely black ?

I have seen poodles noses change colors. In apbt there are two types of reds. One is a red red like how your red poodles are and one is a Red nose. I wonder if the red nose apbt would test out as dd since I think they area a dilute also ( I am not sure )

red apbt with black points
http://www.amberlitekennels.com/bogan.html ( this color is hard to come by in apbt)

red nose apbt

http://www.caragankennel.com/females.html

I would not breed a litter with brown . So I am not sure about that . So far I have talked to one person who has browns in the pedigree and there were brown noses in the litter Her bitch is Dd and so we know that to be true in this case. So in the future is she breeds to a DD will the babies be DD or Dd interesting, we will find out

bigredpoodle · 11-12-2009, 08:03 AM

Oh i forgot to say that her bitch has a black nose with the Dd

roxy25 · 11-12-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bigredpoodle

I would not breed a litter with brown . So I am not sure about that . So far I have talked to one person who has browns in the pedigree and there were brown noses in the litter Her bitch is Dd and so we know that to be true in this case. So in the future is she breeds to a DD will the babies be DD or Dd interesting, we will find out

Was this a poodle or a apbt ? A brown dog with black nose ?

bigredpoodle · 11-12-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by roxy25

Was this a poodle or a apbt ? A brown dog with black nose ?

Poodle Red with a brown nose in the pedigree and in the litter Browns in the background. Sorry it made sense when I wrote it

Her bitch is VERY red and has a black nose (POODLE) But she is BbDd.

roxy25 · 11-12-2009, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bigredpoodle

Poodle Red with a brown nose in the pedigree and in the litter Browns in the background. Sorry it made sense when I wrote it

Her bitch is VERY red and has a black nose (POODLE) But she is BbDd.

OOO Ok That makes sense now lol

Fluffyspoos · 11-12-2009, 08:50 AM

Hm.. Yeeah.. everything you guys are saying is pretty much going "WHOOSH" right over my head.

So.. is a fading gene okay in whites? Since I see a lot of them born with cream or apricot on them, normally the ears, but are very white when they grow up with still very dark points.