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Old 04-29-2014, 01:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Help! I just noticed that my 3 yr old white standard 's skin is turning from baby pink to black. He was pink when groomed a few weeks ago - and when he had emergency surgery to remove a petrified latex glove....but we noticed on Thursday that his inner thighs and genitalia have turned black. We did notice his arm pits were slightly black a while ago but didn't think anything of it because his breeder produces both white and black puppies...figures he might have black in the blood lines?
I had him allergy tested and we switched him to commercial ground raw about three weeks ago. He was raised on breeder required kibble but we switched to lamb or salmon based canned after he bloated this summer. We rotated raw chicken with lamb and fish, and just started beef -- and he seemed to do really well. Has calmed down quite a bit.
Vets hate to hear that dogs are on raw -- I mentioned switching when he had ear infections in the summer and they went ballistic...basically saying it was dangerous because of salmonella etc...(like they don't ever eat sushi????) and one vet even said they wouldn't treat a dog on raw because of the danger to their staff......hmm

Any suggestions before I go and spend another $5000? So far he's had two major surgeries since July plus two ear infections and a bad reaction to prednisone ----so I'm not thrilled at trusting vets without some prior knowledge.

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I don't have any direct experience with this, but if you google this condition it has happened to other white poodles. You can look at the responses yourself. One person mentioned that it is called hyperpigmentation and it may not be something to worry about unless it presents with clinical symptoms like hair loss, drinking a lot, licking, etc. Maybe someone else can give you more information.
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I think as white poodles age it's just tanning of the skin. At least that's what I've heard. Like a black pearly color. ????


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The skin of a white poodle will normally turn dark grey to black, especially if they are in the sun. This is normal. Now if the skin is thickening, or itching, or irritated you may be concerned, but if the skin looks normal, just darker, I wouldn't worry too much.

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I had asked the same question awhile ago. It does seem to be due to tanning especially in areas that are shaved like the inner thighs and belly. Also if I have them trimmed in a really short coat then that happens too especially in the summer when they are outside.
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Help! I just noticed that my 3 yr old white standard 's skin is turning from baby pink to black. He was pink when groomed a few weeks ago - and when he had emergency surgery to remove a petrified latex glove....but we noticed on Thursday that his inner thighs and genitalia have turned black. We did notice his arm pits were slightly black a while ago but didn't think anything of it because his breeder produces both white and black puppies...figures he might have black in the blood lines?

I had him allergy tested and we switched him to commercial ground raw about three weeks ago. He was raised on breeder required kibble but we switched to lamb or salmon based canned after he bloated this summer. We rotated raw chicken with lamb and fish, and just started beef -- and he seemed to do really well. Has calmed down quite a bit.

Vets hate to hear that dogs are on raw -- I mentioned switching when he had ear infections in the summer and they went ballistic...basically saying it was dangerous because of salmonella etc...(like they don't ever eat sushi????) and one vet even said they wouldn't treat a dog on raw because of the danger to their staff......hmm



Any suggestions before I go and spend another $5000? So far he's had two major surgeries since July plus two ear infections and a bad reaction to prednisone ----so I'm not thrilled at trusting vets without some prior knowledge.



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I'm so sorry to hear you have gone through such a tough time. But you seem to be a wonderful poodle parent and I admire you for all your efforts!! Your baby is lucky to have you!!!!!!!!! I don't know anything about this though.. If the darkening of the skin was right after surgery I'd be worried about internal bleeding, but I hear that the skin being blue/black on a white poodle can actually be a good thing, they call it good pigment I think, same as having really black nose and lips. So I'm sorry I'm no help on this, but wanted to let you know that I was very pleased to read about how you have done the best for your poodle. Good luck to you and yours. Please keep us posted

Ps. Before we moved, this really awesome vet I know recommended I search for a ahaa vet on my new location. Maybe you'll find a good vet you feel comfortable with and can trust there? (If you are in the US.)

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Thanks for the suggestions! Unfortunately, tanning is not possible for his skin turning black.....we live in the cold white north and haven't seen the sun since September....unless you can tan from snow glare

My major thought is that something in his raw diet has caused this reaction, and if it hasn't (and is simply a coincidence) the vet will blame it all on his eating raw.
I had him allergy tested through Dr.Dodds and he has only been eating foods that were cleared. However, the breeder told us not to feed him wheat, chicken or beef - only salmon - so he never had anything more than salmon, or lamb or duck kibble until he was cleared, and then we switched to three-ingredient canned because of his bloat and torsion.

Seriously - my last two poodles lived to 18 and 16 - with very manageable health issues at the end (heart issues in the 18 year old and senility in the 16 year old). I've never spent so much on vet bills and he is only 3 years old.
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My white pekepoo's pink skin turned black in splotches.. vet said it was just a sign of aging...like we get age spots... She even had some splotches on her genitalia.
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Does he have a black nose and pads ? If so it is probably just pigment. Many white dogs have areas of black skin appear as they age especially if they have really good pigment in their noses and pads.

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Vets hate to hear that dogs are on raw -- I mentioned switching when he had ear infections in the summer and they went ballistic...basically saying it was dangerous because of salmonella etc...(like they don't ever eat sushi????) and one vet even said they wouldn't treat a dog on raw because of the danger to their staff......hmm
I never had sushi and never would have it either..... not even if you paid me ..... and I know many people who think the same.

Regardless, when I fed my previous dog raw (Lucia is not on raw right now), my vet suggested that I would worm him monthly instead of every 3 months since there was a bigger risk for him to get those from raw food.


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