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Old 01-09-2013, 09:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a dog that the last time I took him to the vet to get some baby teeth pulled I was told that he had Petella Luxation. The owner of his mom and dad has taken them to the vet and they do not have it. If this is genetic why does my dog have it when his parents are clean.

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They are genetic but the mode of inheritance is unknown. In other words we don't know if dad gave it or mom or both, and if both how much from mom or dad. It's possible to develop it if allowed to jump from high places while they are still growing. Genetics is a gamble in general. There are
Some diseases like pcrd PRA can be tested for and easily can avoid producing it if you know if he parents are clear, carriers or affected. When dealing with unknown mode of inheritance or even polygenic diseases like hip dysplasia for example two dogs with good hips can produce dysplastic.


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So another words, the fact that neither parent has it doesn't mean anything.

The owner of the parents said it is because I was not able to stop him from jumping off the couch. I am in a wheelchair and the dog thinks he is the flying squirel. I could not get to him fast enough to stop him.
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It could be genetic, it could be jumping, it could be a slight genetic predisposition exacerbated by jumping. I would concentrate on where you go from here. Has your vet graded the problem? And suggested how it is best treated? That may be as simple as steady, regular exercise to build up the muscles around the knee.
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Luxating patellas are very common in toy dogs. My IG had one, and we chose to have it repaired surgically. It was no big deal--she bounced back from the surgery quickly and was back to doing Agility in no time.

Surgery may not be necessary, though, as fjm says. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, and don't feel guilty about it. Sometimes these things just happen.

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My Nicholas was born with grade 3 in both knees even though none of his ancestors 4 generations back had ever had it nor any of their litters. The good news is that surgery can correct it and the dog can live a happy pain free life. The bad news is you will be buying an orthopedic veterinarian a vacation home. Lol. Worth every penny to see my boy run and jump. Out of the 6 toy poodles I have had in my life, 2 have had luxating patellas requiring surgery and 1 has a weak knee which could locate if she were to injure it.


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Luxate not locate. (Stupid spell check). Have your vet grade it so you know how bad it is. Sometimes it can be managed without surgery with supplements etc.


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From what I understand There are an unknown number of genes associated with luxating patellas. Let say for the sake of argument it's ten genes and lets say one parent carries 2 genes and the other 8 genes. Alone neither has enough genes to actually have it, but this combo actually produced it. Now if we bred the 2 gene dog to a 3 gene (no way of knowing who carries what/how many genes) they will not produce luxating patellas. This breeding should not be repeated. However breeding two good kneed dogs are LESS likely to produce it if one or both parents had luxating patellas. If the dog was predisposed by having some malformity an injury could have brought it to a head.

Best thing to do now If you are keeping the pup is get them on a joint supplement now! You may not see the difference now but years from now he will have more mobility and less arthritis. I didn't put my toy on joint supplements until she was 3 and she is almost 9 now. I didn't see the difference until I had to take her off her supplement when she was 7-7.5 yrs old and had to find a new one. She slowed WAY down and altho happy and no real sign of pain she wasn't willing to jump on the bed or even couch anymore. When I got her back on a supplement she was happy and all over the place again.

I would recommend Nupro joint supplement or cosequin. On Nupro her knees went from a grade 2 and 3 to grade 1 and 2. I recommend joint supplements for all poodles young and old, joint issues or not. It is meant for athletic breeds and that's what poodles are. They recover more quickly from injuries and in some cases help prevent them.

At this point future arthritis prevention is the key. If you have grade 3 or 4 you should think about surgery.


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By the way, is the petella luxation in the back legs or the front, or both?
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