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Old 01-03-2013, 08:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sigh. Ginger has been getting a lot of these. The first round of cysts she got grew large so the vet put her under anesthesia and carved them out and sutured.

Now she has more. The vets at our practice want me to sit on my hands until they get big or rupture again (one already did this) to sedate her yet again and carve them out yet again.

I don't want her to keep being put under anesthesia. I know the cysts run deep, but I don't see why they can't express them or do a local block and remove them when small.

I called around to the dermatologists in our area and they told me that they don't treat this skin problem! and/or aren't surgeons.

This is driving me nuts. Since this is common to poodles, does anyone else has any advice for me?
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I have no personal experience on this but when I looked it up several people mentioned warm compresses when the cyst starts to develop may help and I also saw that several mentions of tea tree oil as being helpful. Some people get a very small needle (like for insulin) and drain some of the liquid and then use Neosporin but you may run a risk of infection with this approach. One person mentioned that he used lidocaine when he did this. You would think they would have a better treatment for this since it is so common. I hope you find something that works for Ginger.
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Kinda graphic....

So my mini had had this lump on her hip for a few years now and I thought to myself great she's getting warts young. Well it never turned into an a wart (Vet thought it was a beginner wart too). Then a couple weeks ago I found another lump within an inch of the first one, much smaller. This made me take a closer look at it and noticed the original bump had an amber dot in the middle and I started to rub it between my fingers and it popped! I was sooo grossed out as this amber cheese whiz stuff came out. Well I figured what the hell and squeezed it all out and went after the much smaller one too. Both have healed very nicely so far. Then I looked online at the people who pop their dogs cysts and learned that after you squeeze me you pull out the little sac or case of the cyst. I pokes of the whole. That way it just doesnt just fill in with more sebum or whatever. Same thing with people cysts. If you have a strong stomach check out YouTube. Ugh my skin is crawling just thinking about it. So you know where I stand, I would pop them again if I did it over again!
Here is the original popped cyst looks good, hopefully it doesn't come back as I didn't remove the sac, but now I know I should. At least that is what the surgeons said on YouTube that someone recorded of their son's cyst lancing.
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Go on the net, look for how to pop a cysts, there is a little dog on there, his people took him to the vet, and the vet poped this thing, It, was huge, and YUCK. Might help you get some info. ,dont know, but might. Good luck, with sweet Ginger.
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If you can afford it, I'd make an appointment with a veterinary dermatologist. You can find one here:
https://www.acvd.org/locator/locator.asp

If none of these dermatologists can help, I highly recommend Metropolitan Veterinary Services in the suburbs of Philadelphia. They saved Bob's life a month or so ago (see the Bob's bloody nose thread). They have a dermatologist on staff and they have a multi-disciplinary approach so if the dermatologist is not a surgeon, she would work with other specialists who are surgeons. I know that they are not close to you, but it might be worth the drive. Or maybe they could refer you to someone closer. See http://www.metro-vet.com/

Hope that you can find a solution. This does not sound like much fun for you or for Ginger.

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These don't have heads at all and run very dead so I can't pop them. I saw that video before. Ew!

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I called around to the dermatologists in our area and they told me that they don't treat this skin problem! and/or aren't surgeons.
BUT, I finally found one today over an hour away that has no problem removing them with a local block.

Rant time.

I mean, really. I'm pretty fed up with my regular vets. Why would you put a dog under the unnecessary risk of anesthesia repeatedly when you don't need to for the procedure? A local block will do JUST FINE.

I'm also fed up with the dermatologists. Really? I could only find one that operates on skin conditions? What do the rest do all day???
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Try diluted iodine.
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I think it is very irresponsible for a vet to put a dog under when a local would do. I would start looking around. Very odd that a dog dermatologist is not a surgeon but a human dermatologist had no problem cutting a pre cancerous mole out on me - using a local.
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They've been the only general practice vets in the area who haven't tried to fleece be yet. Now I think it's all going to hell with them too. Ginger is 12 years old. I really want her to keep being put under!

I'm getting really angry. Do I have to pretend that I don't give a damn about my dogs to get some decent, affordable, trustworthy care?? What does it take?

Our latest in a long list of avian vets wants to operate on my tiny little lovebird parrot. Even a TINY BIT of blood loss can be a very sure death. But as long as she makes a few hundred, who cares about the damn bird, right?

Because she says that I shouldn't even bother with injections to see if the stupid drug works, I should just get the surgical procedure with her fully under to implant the chip. ANNUALLY done, no less.

Why don't I just save myself the time and money and kill my pets for them? What does it take to find a vet you can trust? What is wrong with this profession? Yes, I care deeply for my pets. I want them to be well. Why are medical professionals preying on poor, defenseless animals? Why is it all the vets are going South? I'm running out of them.

Yes, yes. They need to make a living. I get it. Not at the expense of my pet's lives and wellbeing.

I'm not feeling well and am probably more emotional than I should be but who am I supposed to trust? Do I have to go to vet school myself? I don't have a school near me or I'd probably just go to them and trust the students over a wizened vet who's already seeing dollar signs instead of living, breathing, creatures.

Rant over. Still pissed though that I'm losing what used to be a good vet.
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Why would they prefer to put her under to remove the cysts anyway? I mean if there is a different and safer way that is. Have you insisted on the local instead? I don't wanna rile up anymore lol, but how willing are they to do as you ask?


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