Late night diarrhea - Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too!
   

Go Back   Poodle Forum - Standard Poodle, Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle Forum ALL Poodle owners too! > Poodle Forums > Poodle Health

Poodle Health Discuss Poodle health and important health testing for common poodle diseases.

PoodleForum.com is the premier Poodle Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-08-2017, 05:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
Points: 450, Level: 8 Points: 450, Level: 8 Points: 450, Level: 8
Activity: 10.8% Activity: 10.8% Activity: 10.8%
Last Achievements
 
4kids1spoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 40
Thanks: 52
Thanked 99 Times in 20 Posts
Default Late night diarrhea

Clarence has had a couple of rough nights. In the middle of the night, he will whine to go out multiple times throughout the night to go poop. It is quite runny and one night he even threw up. There has been no change in energy level.
I recently did a gradual food change from Iams Smart Puppy (he came home from the breeder with that and didn't have any problems with it) and switched him to Blue Buffalo. I think that the BB is what is upsetting his stomach because I stopped giving any treats and stopped giving him the kibble and only fed him rice with a little bit of pumpkin mixed in and his stool firmed up again. I did that for a couple of days and then reintroduce the BB today with a little bit of pumpkin and tonight he has diarrhea again and I've had to get out of bed to take him out in the middle of the night again.
Any advice? I'm gonna get him off of the BB. I need some good quality puppy food recommendations and any other tips that would be helpful. I hate that he is having this tummy trouble!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
4kids1spoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-08-2017, 06:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
fjm
Senior Member
Points: 103,337, Level: 100 Points: 103,337, Level: 100 Points: 103,337, Level: 100
Activity: 73.3% Activity: 73.3% Activity: 73.3%
Last Achievements
 
fjm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Names of dogs: Sophy (Papillon), Poppy
Poodle Type: Toy Poodle
Location: North of England
Posts: 9,399
Thanks: 3,747
Thanked 13,387 Times in 5,356 Posts
Default

I would definitely chuck the BB, and put him back on the Iams while you research. Better an imperfect food than one with better reviews that makes him ill!
__________________


To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back in Eden,
where doing nothing was not boring- it was peace.
~ Milan Kundera
fjm is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to fjm For This Useful Post:
4kids1spoo (01-08-2017), Mfmst (01-08-2017), zooeysmom (01-08-2017)
Old 01-08-2017, 07:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 41,738, Level: 100 Points: 41,738, Level: 100 Points: 41,738, Level: 100
Activity: 99.3% Activity: 99.3% Activity: 99.3%
Last Achievements
 
zooeysmom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Names of dogs: Maizie, Frosty, Zooey
Poodle Type: Standard Poodles, Maltese
Location: CA
Posts: 4,647
Thanks: 9,071
Thanked 7,165 Times in 3,174 Posts
Default

Maizie was raised on Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin & Stomach and never once had diarrhea while on it. It is an adult formula, but Maiz's breeder has been using it successfully on all of her dogs for many years.

Frosty is being raised on Acana now (switched all the dogs over so they can be on one food) and he has great poop. Some dogs are really sensitive to the high protein content of this food, however.

Another good line for the sensitive dog is Nulo. My dad's dogs are thriving on it.

Hope Clarence feels better soon
__________________

Lacy Lane's Sail On Silver Girl CGCA, Pet Partners Therapy Dog (Maizie)
Rock'nRolla Frosty Blue (Frosty)

Last edited by zooeysmom; 01-08-2017 at 07:59 AM. Reason: mistakes due to lack of sleep!
zooeysmom is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to zooeysmom For This Useful Post:
4kids1spoo (01-08-2017)
 
Old 01-08-2017, 10:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 6,693, Level: 56 Points: 6,693, Level: 56 Points: 6,693, Level: 56
Activity: 99.5% Activity: 99.5% Activity: 99.5%
Last Achievements
 
Skylar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Names of dogs: Babykins
Poodle Type: miniature poodle
Location: Northeast
Posts: 1,057
Thanks: 91
Thanked 1,024 Times in 647 Posts
Default

I know that dreaded early morning wake up call for digestive distress and it's not fun for us or the dog.

zooeysmom brings up a good point about some of these premium dog foods are too high in protein for some dogs..........in addition some of them are too high in fat. While most dogs thrive on premium dog food, not all do. My dog has some food allergies and she can't tolerate the high protein and high fat.

As fmj suggests - go back to what works and donate the BB to a local humane society that could use it.

Check with your vet, but your dog may have food allergies, or he may not tolerate the higher protein/fat foods - or Clarence may have both problems. I test each new food several times before determining that it's safe and I only test one food at a time otherwise it's too complicated to figure out which food made her sick.

If he continues to have food problems you might want to read Catherine's posts on the Nutriscan - I'm considering doing it on my dog. The good news is you will find foods that work.
Skylar is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Skylar For This Useful Post:
4kids1spoo (01-08-2017), seminolewind (01-21-2017), zooeysmom (01-08-2017)
Old 01-08-2017, 04:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
Member
Points: 450, Level: 8 Points: 450, Level: 8 Points: 450, Level: 8
Activity: 10.8% Activity: 10.8% Activity: 10.8%
Last Achievements
 
4kids1spoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 40
Thanks: 52
Thanked 99 Times in 20 Posts
Default

We decided to try Orijen. I got a 12oz bag to see how he does with it. I like the ingredients and even though it's a bit spendy, I want to give Clarence good food. What do you guys think about this brand? I was up all night doing research.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
4kids1spoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2017, 05:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 5,198, Level: 49 Points: 5,198, Level: 49 Points: 5,198, Level: 49
Activity: 25.6% Activity: 25.6% Activity: 25.6%
Last Achievements
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 709
Thanks: 6
Thanked 1,479 Times in 476 Posts
Default

My 11 year old poodle has been on orijen for probably 7 or so years and he's in good health. I have also now switched my st poo pup (9 months) onto it as well and it seems to be the best food for him. He was having some diarrhea on acana and had puking on raw food. But now he has no puking and almost never has diarrhea (and if he does it's after eating something unusual like a lot of treats or something). It's the six fish one. the st poo didn't do well on orijen large puppy (diarrhea)
__________________
Mysticrealm is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mysticrealm For This Useful Post:
4kids1spoo (01-08-2017)
Old 01-08-2017, 05:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 41,738, Level: 100 Points: 41,738, Level: 100 Points: 41,738, Level: 100
Activity: 99.3% Activity: 99.3% Activity: 99.3%
Last Achievements
 
zooeysmom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Names of dogs: Maizie, Frosty, Zooey
Poodle Type: Standard Poodles, Maltese
Location: CA
Posts: 4,647
Thanks: 9,071
Thanked 7,165 Times in 3,174 Posts
Default

Orijen is just super rich, so proceed with caution. It is a highly rated food, and what I fed Frosty until he transitioned to Acana, but not all dogs can tolerate that protein/fat content.
__________________

Lacy Lane's Sail On Silver Girl CGCA, Pet Partners Therapy Dog (Maizie)
Rock'nRolla Frosty Blue (Frosty)
zooeysmom is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to zooeysmom For This Useful Post:
4kids1spoo (01-08-2017)
Old 01-08-2017, 05:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
Member
Points: 450, Level: 8 Points: 450, Level: 8 Points: 450, Level: 8
Activity: 10.8% Activity: 10.8% Activity: 10.8%
Last Achievements
 
4kids1spoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 40
Thanks: 52
Thanked 99 Times in 20 Posts
Default Late night diarrhea

Quote:
Originally Posted by zooeysmom View Post
Orijen is just super rich, so proceed with caution. It is a highly rated food, and what I fed Frosty until he transitioned to Acana, but not all dogs can tolerate that protein/fat content.


It's funny, because he has tolerated all kinds of other things. He hasn't had any problem with any of the treats he has had or anything else really. I thought maybe it might have been the treats or who knows what. I eliminated everything and was just doing boiled chicken, rice, and a little bit of pumpkin for a few days until everything firmed back up and ONLY reintroduced the BB. Everything went to **** again after that. (Pun totally intended.)
I wonder what it is in the BB that is causing such an upset? Hopefully he does well on the Orijen and doesn't have a problem with the protein/fat content. I did notice that it has a ton of protein, but he is quite active and we do a lot of training and playing, so it might work for him? We shall see.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
4kids1spoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2017, 06:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
Points: 11,138, Level: 72 Points: 11,138, Level: 72 Points: 11,138, Level: 72
Activity: 3.2% Activity: 3.2% Activity: 3.2%
Last Achievements
 
SusanG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Names of dogs: Callie & Molly
Poodle Type: Apricot mini & Silver mini
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 632
Thanks: 631
Thanked 591 Times in 279 Posts
Default

I tried Callie on Origen and it didn't agree with her and gave her the runs. I think you are right - its very rich.
Callie has been on Merrick since she was 9 months old but when I got Molly she was on TOW so I tried Callie on it. Callie wouldn't eat it, and Molly eventually ate less and less, obviously not liking it much. I switched her to Merrick and she wolfs it down. Neither of them has had any digestive problems on Merrick and I vary the different flavors of kibble and canned, but their favorite is the raw infused Backcountry.
What does give them tummy problems sometimes is if I let them eat too much of a bully stick or if they have a kneecap more than once or twice a week.
SusanG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2017, 06:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
Member
Points: 450, Level: 8 Points: 450, Level: 8 Points: 450, Level: 8
Activity: 10.8% Activity: 10.8% Activity: 10.8%
Last Achievements
 
4kids1spoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 40
Thanks: 52
Thanked 99 Times in 20 Posts
Default Late night diarrhea

Quote:
Originally Posted by SusanG View Post
I tried Callie on Origen and it didn't agree with her and gave her the runs. I think you are right - its very rich.
Callie has been on Merrick since she was 9 months old when I got Molly she was on TOW so I tried Callie on it. Callie wouldn't eat it, and Molly eventually ate less and less, obviously not liking it much. I switched her to Merrick and she wolfs it down. Neither of them has had any digestive problems on it. I vary the kibble and canned, and their favorite is the raw infused Backcountry.
What does give them tummy problems sometimes is if I let them eat too much of a bully stick or if they have a kneecap more than once or twice a week.


The brands I was trying to choose between were Wellness, Merrick, Acana, and Orijen. I ended up deciding on the Orijen to see how it goes and bought a 12oz bag to sample and a 5lb bag if it agrees with him. I made sure I could return the 5lb bag if he ends up not being able to tolerate it. I'm crossing my fingers.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Last edited by 4kids1spoo; 01-08-2017 at 06:13 PM.
4kids1spoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My late mother's day gift...maybe very late. lol. Poodlebeguiled General Off-Topic Chat 13 05-10-2016 11:37 AM
When to stop the late night potty breaks? emme Poodle Health 12 04-23-2015 01:03 AM
Atticus gets a late night grooming Michelle Poodle Pictures 10 08-09-2010 07:14 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:10 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
All (C) PoodleForum.com
PetGuide.com
Basset Hound Forum Doberman Forum Golden Retriever Forum Beagle Forum
Boxer Forum Dog Forum Pit Bull Forum Poodle Forum
Bulldog Forum Fish Forum Havanese Forum Maltese Forum
Cat Forum German Shepherd Forum Labradoodle Forum Yorkie Forum Hedgehog Forum
Chihuahua Forum Retriever Breeds Cichlid Forum Dart Frog Forum Mice Breeder Forum