No he didn't. He just looked at what he could see with his bright little flashlight. Is looking with a scope something that can be done without anesthesia?
No, it really shouldnt. A LOT of significant bleeding can happen with rhinoscopies, you need full clotting pannels before performing one. Its also best practice to CT first to ensure the cribiform plate is intact. If not, the water from the scope can blast through and into the brain. Scoping sounds simple...but there is a risk factor. A full GA is needed as its quite painful.
If a CT scan shows a mass, and the cribiform plate is full intact we keep the patient under anesthetic and move him to the endoscopy area so an endoscopic guided biopsy and nasal flush can be performed. Or, similar if there is a foreign body.
Some owners elect to not perform a rhinoscopy if there is a mass present, and just treat symptomatically.
Often, the CT scan and Rhinoscopy go together hand in hand under one anesthetic. However, if you are looking for the less invasive tool first, its certainly safer to start with the CT. And you will likely get more information.
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I think its a good thing that the bright red blood is gone.(bright red ts new blood ) so i think dark is old. Anyway please keep us posted, and give BOB a big kiss from my house. And you hang in there, blessings being sent your way. Kay
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Today's update: Lab results came back showing no problems except a low thyroid. They are going to do a second thyroid test (free T4). A little more red blood on the bed last night following a sneezing episode that woke me up. Bob was doing his usual negotiating for treats this morning -- he seems to feel just fine. But of course I am worried. I haven't spoken to the vet (lab results came by email).
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I hope that it is nothing... When I first got Remington, I worried and worried over an eye infection... It looked bad to me, but the vet gave him meds, and recomended some for me, as I think I stressed him out more than any problems with Rem. HA! It is hard to be an over protective parent. But with babies as wonderful as our poodles are, we have to be. Wishes for a speedy recovery and positive thoughts and prayers are coming your way. (poodle hugs)
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I had to have a CT scan done on one of my old Rottie girls so I understand completely what you're going through. Getting the scan done should give you a definitive diagnosis and enable you to make informed decisions about treatment. Like everyone else, I'm hoping for a good outcome.
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Hi Chagall's Mom -- Thanks for asking. Unfortunately, nothing is resolved. The Free T4 test ruled out hypothyroidism. My vet has been treating the symptoms, first with antibiotics and then with Zyrtec (for alergies). I guess the hope was that antibiotics and/or Zyrtec would knock it out. But no such luck. The bleeding has pretty much stopped, but the sneezing continues. If anything, it is getting worse.
My vet has now referred me to a doctor at a high-end vet hospital that has all of the latest equipment (CT scan, MRI, etc.) and the vets are all specialists. The vet that I have been referred to sounds extremely well qualified--a summa *** laude graduate of U of Pa, so I guess he's smart! Also, I'm taking some comfort in the fact that I have been referred to a vet in internal medicine not oncology. From the very beginning, I have been perhaps too focused on cancer, but of course hoping for something else. We have an appointment on Thursday afternoon. I'll let you know how it goes.
PS. For all of you who have never tried using dirty words in your PF posting, guess what? You can't do it. I typed in "summa c-u-m laude" (without the dashes) above and I got caught by the dirty word police!!! C-u-m was automatically changed to ***. How funny is that! LOL
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Reason: I've been BLEEPED!!!
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Drat! I was so hoping things were well. I hope things go smoothly on Thursday. I was born on a Thursday and it's always been a "lucky" day for me, hope it's the same for Bob. I am really sorry for your continued worry. Thanks for the update. I'll be watching for more news.
Cabryn Chagall CGC
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