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Old 06-04-2011, 04:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone have a miniature poodle (or know of one) with a collapsing trachea problem? If so, what are the symptoms and at what age did it become apparent? How was it treated; with medication, rest, surgery?
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Personally, I have not known of a miniature poodle with a collapsing trachea, just two yorkies and a shih tzu.
I thought that it was pretty much a tiny dog thing. Although, I have read that it may be assosciated with the bordetella vaccine.
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I hope dear chagall is not sick!
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Is Chagall okay?

I don't know of any mini that suffers from that. I know of a toy though. I think the vet told her owner to use a harness instead of a collar and to avoid any intense activity with the dog.
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Thank you my wonderful poodle pals for your replies and concern. Chagall does not appear to be sick, I'm just a bit of worrier.

Yesterday I was at the vet's just to weigh Chagall and I mentioned to him that Chagall occasionally makes a "honking" sound when he pulls on his leash. (I know, he should never pull; he is not convinced!). The vet threw out "collapsing trachea" and I almost collapsed on the floor! He said just use a harness and don't worry about it, unless it gets worse. (While watching my poodle zoom around his waiting room.) I flew home and began surfing the internet and started a "journal" to document when Chagall has "episodes," of course there have been none. The local pet boutique is richer today; Chagall now has three lovely new harnesses.

I tossed and turned all night while my husband and poodle slept like logs off the same tree. I don't know how concerned to be. I've asked everyone who sees Chagall-- his trainer, pet sitter, local pet store owners and other dog owners, to watch him for this. If Chagall is starting up with something I just have to get ahead of it. I may just run him over to the University of Pennsylvania Veterinary Hospital for a thorough going over. Alternatively, I may have to check myself in somewhere!

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Ah… that honking/coughing sound when pulling … yes, Nickel does that too when he's pulling REALLY hard (when he sees his friend across the street and we are waiting at the light). I talked to the vet and we are now using the Easy Walk harness and no more coughing.

I have heard the toy poodle with CT cough. It's a totally different thing. That toy poodle sounded as if she was coughing her lung out and followed with some whizzing sound, you know, like she needed an inhaler or something.

I don't think you should be too worried
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Ah… that honking/coughing sound when pulling … yes, Nickel does that too when he's pulling REALLY hard (when he sees his friend across the street and we are waiting at the light). I talked to the vet and we are now using the Easy Walk harness and no more coughing.

I have heard the toy poodle with CT cough. It's a totally different thing. That toy poodle sounded as if she was coughing her lung out and followed with some whizzing sound, you know, like she needed an inhaler or something.

I don't think you should be too worried
Oh Josie, I love you!! This is EXACTLY what I needed to hear! So Nickel (well-behaved boy that he is) sometimes tugs hard to get to something (his buds) and makes that noise? Yup! Same exact scenario for Chagall--he sees his hiking buddies up on the path and he goes to pulling and honking a time or two. And to you it doesn't sound like a poor dog with CT? Oh, is that ever a RELIEF! I'm old enough to be your granny but you just gave me the kind of comfort only a mother could give. Thank you my silver mini mom friend!! Thank you sooooooo much!
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I think that lots of dogs will cough at times when pulling on a lead, particularly with some types of collars! I agree with Nickel's mom, a case of CT sounds so much more intense and repeated.
Happy to hear it was just a suspicion!
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Nickel is NOT that well behaved And yes, he does pull and tug when he sees his BFFs. That cough doesn't sound as intense as the CT "cough", not even close. Of course, what I am saying is based on that one case (toy poodle) so I am not saying every single CT case would sound the same. My friend's toy made that whizzing sound even at rest (like when we were watching TV together and she was sitting next to us and would get up and cough and hiss a few times and then sat down as if nothing had happened.

I think a harness and some loose leash training will do the trick.
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I think that lots of dogs will cough at times when pulling on a lead, particularly with some types of collars! I agree with Nickel's mom, a case of CT sounds so much more intense and repeated.
Happy to hear it was just a suspicion!
rubymom: Really appreciate your thoughts on this! I guess my overblown worry reflects my rather intense attachment to my poodle. We are just inseparable, never had another dog like him. Thinking more rationally (at the moment, which could pass!), I am much comforted to hear other "pullers" sometimes "honk" too. It's so infrequent, I guess I was being a wee bit overly concerned. None of my other dogs ever did this, so I was uncertain. It's so helpful to have others here on PF to bounce things off of, and to hold ya' down on the ground when you're bouncing around! (And oh how my husband appreciates it! He thinks I'm a tad obsessive.) [guilty!]
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